PLAYBACK 23: Parasound P7 Multichannel Preamp & Marantz AV8003 A/V Pre-Tuner

Two Superb Surround Sound Front Ends, Compared

So, what’s the deal?

Well, my best explanation is that the difference is in the background presented by these products. We tend to listen to the music, just as when looking at a painting we look at the image. But in reality, a traditional painter has put real effort into selecting canvas or board, then covering it with gesso, then drawing in charcoal, and then painting a verdaccio version. Then what we see as the paint goes on. My point is that we do perceive the background (the underpainting, etc., that the old masters worked so assiduously to perfect). It’s just that we don’t see the background explicitly, but rather experience its effect on a more subliminal level.

I’d say that preamps have backgrounds, too. Describing them is difficult, but the Audio Research has a background that makes it seem slightly more airy and rich than the mbl or Marantz or the Parasound Halo. These background differences matter a lot to some listeners (myself included), but are precisely the kind of “differences” that are so subtle that, for some listeners, they seem either meaningless or non-existent. Subtlety isn’t automatically meaningless (perhaps the opposite), but by definition it isn’t obvious.

Two (or four) preamps don’t tell us everything we need to know to answer my opening questions. But I would say that the mid-priced preamp market clearly has some surprisingly good offerings. You can certainly get a multichannel preamp that performs very well on music while being affordable in high-end terms. It doesn’t seem likely to me that most people would need to go beyond this level of preamp. Preamps do differ meaningfully, though, so once you have everything dialed-in as well as you can, the issue of sonic backgrounds can become very important.

 

BOTTOM LINE, Parasound Halo P7:

A well-made affordable and luscious-sounding preamp that is close to, but not quite the last word in, treble purity.

 

BOTTOM LINE, Marantz AV8003:

Viewed simply as a preamp this controller is close to state-of-the-art; considering that you also get a full multi-channel decoder and Audyssey processor it is almost ideal for a mixed music and theater system.

 

SPECS & PRICING

Parasound Halo P 7 multichannel preamplifier

Inputs: 2 sets of multichannel (7.1-channel) analog audio inputs, 7 stereo analog audio inputs (six single-ended RCS, one balanced XLR), 1 MM/MC phono input, 1 front-panel input jack for portable MP3 player
Outputs: 2 sets of 7.1-channel analog audio outputs (1 set single-ended RCA, 1 set balanced XLR), subwoofer output with analog bass management, high quality headphone output
Other controls: Serial port for RS-232 control, rear panel IR input jack, 3 different 12v trigger outputs
Dimensions (H x W x D): 4.125” x 17.25” x 13.75”
Weight: 13.5 lbs.
Warranty: 5 years, parts and labor
Price: $2000

 

Marantz AV8003 THX Ultra2-certified A/V pre-tuner

Decoding/sound processing formats: Dolby TrueHD, Digital Plus and EX, Pro Logic IIx, Virtual Speaker, and Headphone; DTS-HD Master Audio and –HD High Resolutions Audio, ES, 96/24, Discrete and Matrix 6.1, and Neo:6; THX Ultra 2; SRS Circle Surround II, DSD (SACD bitstream) via HDMI; THX Neural Surround for XM satellite radio; HDCD; and Marantz proprietary M-DAX mode for use with compressed audio formats. The AV8003 is also equipped with the Audyssey MultEQ room/speaker EQ system.
Video Inputs/Outputs: HDMI (four in, two out), component video (four in, two out), S-Video (four in, three out), composite video (four in, four out), network (RJ-45 connector)
Audio Inputs/Outputs: 7.1-channel analog (one in—unbalanced, two out—one unbalanced, one balanced), stereo analog (seven in—six unbalanced, one balanced; four out), digital audio (six in—three coax and three optical; two out—one coax and one optical), network (RJ-45 connector), tuner (AM/FM/HD antenna inputs, XM- and Sirius satellite radio ready, headphone (one out).
Other inputs/outputs: RS-232C (one for external control), DC triggers (two out), flasher (one in), IR receiver (one in), IR emitters (two out), and D-Bus Remote RC-5 connections (two in/out pairs, one form main zone, one for external zone).
Dimensions (H x W x D): 7.31” x 17.31” x 15.19”
Weight: 25.6 lbs.
Warranty: Three years, parts and labor
Price: $2600

Comments

RonLev (not verified) -- Thu, 09/03/2009 - 11:52

It is interesting--and telling--that the audio quality of well-made mid-market electronics (Marantz) is now equaling the higher-priced "purist" high-end products (Parasound)--and you get a lot more flexibility to boot.   The idiosyncratic sound of the Audio Research is very troubling--if it sounds "different", I doubt that it can be better, since the principle of high fidelity performance is that all the competition should be sounding more similar the more accurate they become.    If this trend continues (better quality mid-market products, escalating prices of high-end products), it simply won't be cost-effective to buy high-end products anymore except for the snob appeal. 
 
Ron Levine
Philadelphia

The name you used belongs to a registered user. (not verified) -- Thu, 09/03/2009 - 13:37

Your comparisons echo the comments I made about the AV8003 on Amazon's web site yesterday. A friend of mine, after reading my comments, questioned whether or not I was being completely objective in my opinion that the analog section of the AV8003 is as good as those on some very high end 2-channel preamps that I've auditioned.  I told him that absolute objectivity is difficult (as I own an AV8003) and that I might be justifiying my purchase in my own mind but that I felt I was being honest in my evaluation. Your article lends some credibility to my earlier assertion. I can hardly wait to hear his reaction to it.
I'm not sure how your unit was configured, but I've discovered that CD playback using the analogue out from either my Marantz DV9600 or Oppo BD83 and selecting Pure Direct mode on the AV8300 produces a sound that is hard to beat in my book.
Theoretically, a preamp should do nothing to the original signal other than possibly add some gain before sending it on to the amplifier so one would expect more similarities than differences amongst the various designs. Apparently, there is not a lot of differences in gain stages of preamps? The real differences in controllers become more apparent when they are performing D to A conversions, as there seems to be detectable differences in the various chipsets and implementations.
As a side note, I prefer the audio from theMarantz player over the Oppo in the described configuration although they both sound very good.

Rip (not verified) -- Thu, 09/03/2009 - 15:05

 

 
This is probably just my personal perception but when there is a review of something like a pre-amp it would seem nice to mention the amps that compliment or have been used to define these products along with any other equipment in the chain between the source and the listener?  Did I miss this?

xyz (not verified) -- Thu, 09/03/2009 - 22:05

I wound up retunring two different P7s becasue they had an identical hashy noise coming from one channel from balanced outputs. Yes, I was careful to isolate it to the P7 by changing channel connectors from the sources and also to the amp. They were several hundred apart in serial number, so I wonder if this is some kind of weird problem they have. Was not present from the unbalanced outputs. Was quite evident from my high efficeincy Genesis speakers, but lower efficiency Soundlabs did not suffer to anywhere near the same degree.

music guy (not verified) -- Fri, 09/11/2009 - 01:32

I've owned the P7 for about 2 months, and have had the AV8003 for almost a week, with lots of listening hours on both.  No conclusions yet, but did want to share that I initially heard the same sibilance referred to in the article ("emphasized the leading edge of treble sounds") in the P7.  It was especially noticeable on the front edge of brass notes.  All that said, it went away about a week or two.  As an orchestral musical, I'm very fussy about accurate tonal quality, and I would have sent the unit right back had it not resolved.

If there’s interest, will post more after reaching conclusions.

rtayl765 (not verified) -- Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:15

This review was informative,but will there be a full review as a Surround sound processor?

Leslie Ann Jones (not verified) -- Thu, 10/01/2009 - 15:13

I noticed the P7 has a phono preamp and the Marantz does not. Might make a difference to some.

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