
Narrow and Wide jitter adjustment switch settings (affecting SP/DIF and Toslink inputs only): I switched back and forth between the iDecco’s “Narrow” and “Wide” jitter adjustment settings and found the “Narrow” setting gave a clearer and more focused sound. The “Wide” setting has a slightly softened and perhaps more forgiving sound that is appealing in its way, but a sound that also limits the absolute accuracy and vividness of the overall presentation. That said, I could see how the “Wide” setting might be just the ticket when using the iDecco with high-jitter sources.
USB vs. SP/DIF Inputs: Among DACs that provide both USB and SP/DIF inputs, the common wisdom is that the SP/DIF inputs will always sound better than the USB inputs, and in most cases the common wisdom holds true. But frankly, the iDecco DAC really surprised me in that its USB and SP/DIF inputs sounded essentially the same, which is pretty remarkable. I did numerous back-to-back comparisons, first feeding full resolution WAV files via USB to the iDecco, and then playing the same musical content via CDs in my reference disc player and sending the resulting digital audio streams to the iDecco’s SP/DIF inputs. The sonic results were so similar that I couldn’t reliably characterize substantive differences (if any) between them. I’ve never had that happen when comparing USB and SP/DIF inputs in a DAC before. Cool, no?
During my listening tests, I compared the iDecco DAC both to a PS Audio Digital Link III DAC ($995, but currently offered at the special price of $700 in the U.S.) and to the output section of my reference Musical Fidelity kW SACD player (no longer in production, but a very costly player in its day).
I found that the PS Audio DAC produced a subtly sweeter, darker and subtly more “romantic” sound than the iDecco DAC, while the iDecco offeed a more resolved, open and transparent sound with—by comparison—an ever-so-slightly more lightly balanced presentation overall. I also found that the PS Audio DAC’s SP/DIF input sounded better than its USB input, whereas the iDecco’s USB and SP/DIF inputs, as mentioned above, sounded equally good.
In comparison to the DAC/output stage of my Musical Fidelity kW SACD player the iDecco offered many similarities, though I thought the Musical Fidelity offered slightly better resolution of low-level details and low-level dynamic contrasts, and a bit more defined and nuanced bass. On the other hand, you could argue that the iDecco offered a more relaxed presentation. In any event, the sonic differences between the iDecco DAC and the DAC/output section of the Musical Fidelity player were relatively small—especially in light of the big price differential between the products.
Given these results, I’ve come to think that the iDecco’s DAC section alone could more or less justify the product’s entire asking price, which is remarkable when you consider that there is so much more to the iDecco than just its DAC section
SONIC CHARACTER, AMP
Having listened to the iDecco DAC/Preamp sections driving a powerful and accomplished pair of outboard monoblock power amps (the NuForce Reference 9 v.3 SE pair), I felt I was in a pretty good position to assess what the iDecco’s own amplifier section could do by comparison. My conclusion, not too surprisingly, is that the iDecco’s amplifier section is very good for what it is: namely, a high quality, mid-priced and moderately powered amplifier offered as part of an affordable, multifunction integrated amp. But that said, I would also observe that the iDecco amp is not quite the equal of a high-end standalone power amp, nor should we expect it to be.
Comments
I'm an early adopter. When I put my iPod 120Gb classic in the dock, I expected (and got) something that sounded like the real thing. Most of the fatiguing "stuff" I couldn't quantify or describe was gone. And that's why this is really something special - so much MUSIC for so little money.
However the real revelation was pulling digital direct from my (heavily modded) Oppo DV-981HD, which has a very expensive DAC. The iDecco simply blew it away and I agree with your conclusion that the DAC is worth the price all by itself. It also made me realise the Rip->EAC->Convert to Apple Lossless v putting the CD in the tray is a bit overblown. I was very (very!) hard pressed to tell the difference between the carefully ripped and carelessly played CD.
The final selling point about this - which you reviewers in your fabulous audio rooms may not appreciate :) - is the WAF...
I like the IDecco. I use it with NHT powered speakers and powered subwoofer. The preamp stage and dac are terrific. The V-DAC and V-Can which cost approximately $500.00 together would be a great USB DAC and Amp for headphones only. The V-Can (headphone amp) has a pass through which would allow you to use the V-DAC as a Dac for headphones or speakers using a Wadia/Ipod or computer as the music
source.
IDecco has a good headphone amp with DAC and Ipod transport. The V-can and V-dac has more balls to run your AKG 701/702 headphones. If you add high quality wiring from Wadia transport to dac to headphone amp, add another $100.00 for a total of $600.00. The WAdia transport is $379.00. In essence, the IDecco is probably the better deal. All you need is speaker cable. The headphone section is not as powerful as the V-Can/V-Dac combo.
My iDecco arrived in m Sydney office Monday 8 Feb and I having read the manufacturers advice I have really just had it warming up till today. This is my new CBD office system and improvement in music quality (compared to my prior system of ipod line out dock into a good amp) is immediately obvious. Users should buy with confidence about the sonic quality. Wife does not yet know but yes I agree it would get a goof WAF rating.
Vincent
Alex,
At the moment, Playback's review samples of the AKG K702s are in Tom Martin's possession. If I can carve out some spare time to do so, I will either borrow the K702s from Tom or loan the iDecco to him so we can supply some follow-up comments.
In my own tests, I used the iDecco with Shure SRH840 and Denon A-HD5000 headphones with excellent results. Not surprisingly, the sound qualities of the iDecco-as-headphone amp closely mirrored those that I observed when evaluating the iDecco-as-preamp, which is why I let one set of comments stand for both applications.
Best, Chris Martens
Chris Martens
Editor, Avguide.com/Playback/The Perfect Vision
The iDecco as a headphone amp - US$79 for a pair of RE0s is another almost unbelievable bargain!
Thanks for your reply Chris,
Has there been any progress on the capabilities of the iDecco with the AKG K 702's ? Also can you confirm if the Decco 2 is the same as the iDecco but without the ipod docking facility ? Also am I right in thinking that the Decco 2 and the iDecco share the same DAC and headphone amp as the Nova ?
Regards Alex
Alex 30,
I (eventually) got a chance to try the iDecco with the AKG K702 and I would say that while the results were not horrible, neither were they great. For whatever reason, the iDecco did not seem to make a happy match with the K702 (or vice versa?) so that the resulting sound seemed somewhat "compressed" and "lifeless" to me (this in sharp contrast to the much, much better results I achieved when using the iDecco with other headphones such as the Shure SRH840).
My thought: I feel confident that there are other headphone amps that would work better with the K702s (or to turn things around, other headphones that would work better with the iDecco).
The iDecco uses a different tube than the Nova, so to that extent the headphone amps of the iDecco and Nova are similar but not exactly "the same."
My understanding is that the iDecco and Nova share the same fundamental DAC sections, though the mix of available inputs is of course quite different between the two.
Chris Martens
Editor, Avguide.com/Playback/The Perfect Vision
Dear Sirs,
I've read the favorable reviews for iDecco and decided to consider it as a component to build my small system upon. Thus I decided to ask you about your experience of what could be the best match for it? I see it has rather limited power so should be used in small areas which is fine with me as I have around 15-20 sq meters room where I would plan to make a computer based and/or Ipod based system. Do I get it right that I can connect iDecco via USB to an ordinary soundcard and it will substitute its DAC and thus all sound processing will go through iDecco and all I need is a pair of nicely matching speakers? If yes, what should be the best suitable speakers in your opnion (cost-effective off course as the budget is quite limited). If I still would need some external soundcard as a medium between my notebook and iDecco, what should it be as a soundcard? Thank you in advance for your opinions and any replies.
With kind regards,
Alexey
found the suggested monitors, sorry. now only the question regarding the soundcard. And maybe the cables? thank you!
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