Oppo BDP-83SE Special Edition Universal Blu-ray Player (The Perfect Vision 86)

This One’s For Serious Audiophiles

Along with heightened detail and resolution, and perhaps because of them, the Special Edition Oppo has an even more transparent and focused sound than the standard model, and it produces more fully fleshed-out and vividly three-dimensional soundstages. Put all these elements together and you have a player that takes you much further toward the sonic mountaintop than it has any right to for the money.

If you listen to the standard Oppo as it navigated a complex musical passage you might rightly think, “Man, that’s pretty great sound for a $499 player.” But listen to the same passage through the Special Edition and you’ll discover that perceptual centers in your brain suddenly have much more high-quality information to work with, so that you can’t help but relax and think, “Ahhh, now this is how that passage is really supposed to sound.”

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I took the Special Edition home, plugged it into my high-end two-channel rig, and compared the Oppo vs. my reference Musical Fidelity kW SACD player. Not too surprisingly, the big Musical Fidelity player did outperform the Oppo both on CD and SACD material, offering even finer shadings of detail, a smoother yet still very tightly focused sound, a bit better bass definition, and even more expansive soundstages. Even so, the Oppo certainly did not get “blown away,” so to speak, nor did it embarrass itself (its superb resolution would never, ever allow that). But when you stop to consider that the Musical Fidelity is a very expensive, vacuum tube-equipped, audio-only player that handles just two disc formats (SACD and CD), while the BDP-83SE can play just about any audio or video disc format under the sun and for many thousands of dollars less, its sonic prowess seems all the more amazing.

Is the difference between the BDP-83 and the SE version worth the extra $400? For casual listeners perhaps not, but for audiophiles and music lovers who cherish the richness and intricacy of fine recordings it emphatically is. In fact, I would argue that in terms of performance per dollar, the SE might be an even bigger bargain than the standard model is.

Are there other universal/Blu-ray players that can beat the BDP-83SE in terms of sound quality? Well, I haven’t had a chance to try either of the top two Denon universal/Blu-ray players (the DVD-A1UDCI at $4500, or the DBP-4010UDCI at $1999), nor have I tested the new Marantz flagship (the UD9004 at $5999). Any one of those units might given the Oppo stiff competition. But at the $899 price point I think I can safely say the Oppo Special Edition is in a class of its own.

 

AUDIO PERFORMANCE

Movie Soundtracks

Readers have asked if the BDP-83SE’s superior audio circuitry makes a difference for movie playback if the player’s multichannel analog outputs are used in lieu of digital audio connections to an AVR or A/V controller. The answer is that yes, you can enjoy the superior sonic quality of the Special Edition player--especially on high-res concert film soundtracks (though only you can determine whether the Oppo’s DACs and analog audio section sound superior to the DACs, etc. found in your particular receiver or controller).

To give the Oppo a workout, I put on a favorite Blu-ray test disc, Return to Forever Returns—Live at Montreux 2008 (the film features a beautifully produced DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack). Two particular elements of the soundtrack will show what makes the Special Edition, well, special. First, I played the “Al’s Solo” sequence, which features a deliciously subtle and elegant, flamenco-inflected acoustic guitar solo performed by Al Di Meola. What I found fascinating about the Oppo’s performance was not only the things it did do, but also those that it did not. On the one hand, the player captured the smooth, rounded attack and sweet but never saccharine tonality of the acoustic guitar (which stood in sharp contrast to the more biting, incisive sounds of the electric guitars Di Meola had used earlier in the concert). Di Meola’s blazingly fast solo lines were presented with great clarity, and I was impressed to find that the Oppo also nailed a certain elusive quality of fluidity in Di Meola’s playing that is not always easy to reproduce. On the other hand, the Oppo thankfully did not inject any kind of artificial sonic “edge enhancement” to soup-up or over-dramatize the impact of Di Meola’s cat-quick fingering changes. Throughout the solo, the Oppo kept its composure, revealing—but never overemphasizing—the sheer technical brilliance of Di Meola’s performance. What I especially liked, then, was the fact that the Oppo got out of the way and let the music speak for itself.

Comments

Clueless -- Thu, 02/25/2010 - 14:04

I don't post much anymore because I don't have the time, but I'll make an exception here because the subject is of such fundamental importance.
Will looping an huge RF/EMI emitter through your receiver or A/V controller and then on to the display degrade the 120db range sound quality? Are electrical loops formed? What if the HDMI audio was disabled and the HDMI video was send directly to the display?
Here the Oppo 83SE's analog outputs can be feed to the pre-amp using the mult-channel/analog outputs.
Any test comparing the sound quality should be done with your system optimally configured. DO NOT COMPARE Blu-ray (or SPD/IF) ANALOG SOUND WITH HDMI STILL RUNNING THROUGH THE RECEIVER.
My formerly obsolete Krell controller never sounded so good when mated with the Oppo 83SE. Further 1.5Mb DTS sounds better than HDMI "hi-rez" audio. No doubt HDMI will improve, but it is very difficult to even ground 3GHz signals.

Willis (not verified) -- Wed, 03/03/2010 - 22:15

And to think that so many high end companies have copied this player or the base oppo. Lexicon ,theta, ayre, and they all charge snake oil prices.

Blotto (not verified) -- Fri, 03/12/2010 - 20:04

Had the Oppo -83SE Edition in house for 18 days on trial..........Ummmmm Audiophile???? -Not Quite..-----
by a long shot. My Quad CDP-2 crushed the Oppo for over all presentation. Using the ATC SAI 150 and the
ATC 40s speakers. Nordost Vishnu on the CDP and Nordost Brahma on the SAI 150. Cardas Golden Reference ICs. The Oppo is shall I say, high strung. The Quad CPD-2 had greater texture, depth and tonal balance.
The " Blue Ray " playback had a cartoon-like quality which is basically UNnatural. Just one opinion. The Oppo
was returned.

Kabir (not verified) -- Wed, 03/17/2010 - 10:38

You most likely had a defective unit, and/or your system (video) is not calibrated, and/or you didn't use the HDMI interface, and/or used bad HDMI cable (inferior HDMI cables can impart a cartoonish character). Upon comparing the Oppo with the $6,000 Denon Player I found it identical in video quality on an ISF Calibrated DarkChip 3 projector and only slightly less textured in an audio system very similar to yours. The Oppo at its asking price has no equal. Recalibrate your video setup.

anonymous2 (not verified) -- Thu, 04/01/2010 - 21:21

I enjoyed your review. Question: I purchased the original Oppo 970HD as my digitial source for my living room. I run it through my MSB upsampling DAC and then to my integrated amp. If I purchased the BDP-83SE, is it no longer necessary to use the MSB upsampler in view of the superior DAC and playback characterisitcs of that unit? Thanks

jimlawrence -- Sat, 07/31/2010 - 11:54

I have the original 83. I just love it and use it with my front projection system. I wondered if the original could be upgraded and if so, at what cost? And I think OPPO could do us all a great favor if they put out a kit that handy guys (like me) could use to ugrade it.

closetaudiophile -- Fri, 09/24/2010 - 15:47

This higher end equipment is a whole new world for me so you'll have to excuse any lack of knowledge I show here. Anyway, here is the question regarding the se version of oppo bdp-83:

Could one have the best of both worlds? Have analog connections for music (2.0) with no avr interps and just pass thru for music and have HDMI hooked up at the same time for movies (5.1) with the normal dolby settings in the avr for that? I could then program my harmony remote to do it's stuff according to what I'm using the oppo and avr for. I'm just in the process of building my first lowest of the low "high-end" system and I'm super stoked with everything Having a great time!!. So far a Samsung un8500 for video portion and am just ordering the paradigm studio 60's for fronts w/ cc490 center and studio 20's for rear. I own a pioneer vsx model for avr. I do 50/50 music/movies. I know it would be a mess of wires to have hdmi and analog hooked up simultaneously, but I have a closed cabinet with glass doors for devices to where none of that mess would be showing.

Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks everyone,

Jeff

intermediatic -- Sun, 12/05/2010 - 14:07

The reviewer speaks of using the unit as a digital transport with a Decco Nova. This makes little sense.

The SE variant is specifically designed for analog audio out, not to be used as a transport. That is a waste of money as it is identical to the BDP-83 for those purposes.

From a circuitry point of view, the Nova uses the Sabre32 ES 9006 for conversion whereas the BDP-83SE uses the Sabre32 ES 9016. What's the difference you say? The 9006 is a less expensive and slightly older chip. It is designed for 8 channel sound although it has a 2 channel mode which is what the Nova uses (the Nova only converts to stereo). The 9016 is DESIGNED for higher quality stereo output. Plus, unless I'm mistaken, you can't output SACD or DVD Audio over the digital out to the Nova, so you're going to lose those. Assuming the analog circuitry after the DAC is comparable (and it should be given that this is what the SE is being sold for!), you will have better conversion in the BDP-83E rather than in the Nova.

I have both the Peachtree Nova (which I use as a DAC and preamp) and the Oppo BDP-83SE.

My own listening tests confirmed this, although the difference was nothing huge. This would suggest that if you have a lower end speakers and don't care to listen to higher resolution audio content you might be better off with a BDP-83 (now discontinued) and a Nova.

I have put in a better set of speakers since then so perhaps I'd hear a greater difference but alas am too busy to go out and confirm this.

douglas751@mac.com -- Thu, 01/06/2011 - 12:44

About 3 years ago I rediscovered how nice it is to watch a good movie with 2 speakers instead of surround. My system is now comprised of a Marantz HD Projector, 180" fixed screen, 2 Magnepan 1.7Qr, Marantz 2 channel tube amp (MA2275) and this new Oppo BDP-83SE DVD player.

Watching a movie on this system results in a wonderful experience.... Awesome Video (size and clarity), Wonderful Dialog, Good Ambiance and no distracting fake surround effects or silly bass. If you are tired of watching your movie on a 50" plasma and blasting your ears with low quality surround, please try a 2 channel system. By not having a center speaker you are making the entire setup easier and allows for a larger screen. No longer will you find yourself adjusting and worrying about the sound, you will just watch the movie, understand what was said, and enjoy yourself.

Concert videos are just awesome.

As for this Oppo player... I had bought an expensive Marantz blue-ray player and returned it because it was very slow and in the end it stopped reading discs. They sent a replacement that was equally slow, so I returned that one and waited for this Oppo. I think that the video from this system is better than the Marantz, and the sound is very, very good to me.

bluesdoctor -- Thu, 01/06/2011 - 14:30

Am I missing something? No internet streaming or even internet connectivity? No 3D? At this price?

OK, so you have a great DAC, but so what?

Can't see this competing with a $220 Panasonic with all these features, including 7.1 and a wide range of playable formats.

douglas751@mac.com -- Thu, 01/06/2011 - 16:34

Everybody has different wants and needs. OPPO made this upgraded player for those who wanted better 2 channel analog outputs. 3D and internet connectivity are new fads that many want, but I, for one, would pay extra to NOT have those "features" on a DVD player.

WIMP -- Fri, 01/07/2011 - 08:00

I have an OPPO BDP 83 which I bought before the SE came out. I use it as a transport only connected by HDMI to my SONY 5200 receiver.
Although I am very happy with the sound I get from SACD /DVD-A and also red book CDs (with their limitations) I wonder if a BDP-83SE would make a significant improvement.
Please share your experiences with me

Wimp

jtmjnow -- Fri, 01/07/2011 - 13:52

I was wondering the same thing; however my straight 83 seems to sound real good as is. I run it with Emotiva products.

jtmj

jtmj

brion -- Fri, 03/18/2011 - 01:04

Does anyone know how long the break-in time on this unit is? Also, according to Oppo, one does not need to use the menu to just play music thru the rca outputs. That was NOT my experience. I had to hook it up to a tv set first. No sound came out when I plugged it directly into an amp and used the volume controls. Would it sound better coming out the multichannel outputs?? A bit confused by Oppo's customer service rep's response.

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