Also looking into the VPI classic and saw it in the Esoteric room at the CES 2009. At that Time I didn't know it's price or much about it. HP is pretty high on it and gave it a golden ear award for 2009 along with almost every other VPI table that is released every year. Is there a VPI table that's not fantastic or doesn't win golden ears? lol If anyone tested it let us know. Is it really better than the VPI superscoutmaster rim drive????
Harry Weisfeld has built some pretty amazing products over the years. He does a huge amount of analog research, is extremely knowledgable and is one of a very few people who will answer your questions honestly. Even though I don't own and never have owned a VPI, I have tremendous respect for Harry's design abilities and will most certainly give him the benefit of doubt regarding the above post.
It's an interesting endorsement, especially not having owned a VPI ever. Him being a great guy, and doing research and knowledge is all great, but has anyone actullay tried it in their system and if they did what other components did you use associated with it.
new review of the VPI Classic that just came out on The Audio Beat (new audio website from Marck Mickelson, former editor at Soundstage.com, and Paul Bolin, formerly of Stereophile). Review emphasizes the Classic's rythmic and timing stability and dynamic presentation. Interesting review. Here it is: http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/vpi_classic.htm
Does TAS have any plans to review the VPI Classic any time soon? There seems to be a fair amount of enthusiasm by early adopters of this new tt from VPI on various forums and also a fair amount of controversy given the seeming 180 turn Mr. Weisfeld has taken in reversing certain key tt design principles (integrated motor in plinth vs. stand-alone motor, aluminum vs. acrylic platter, etc...). I know HP gave the VPI Classic an Editor's award mid-year but was wondering if TAS plans to do a more comprehensive review. Thx
Hi fi+ reviewed it in the recent issue 68 (available online) and also awarded it Turntable of the year award for 2009. I doubt that TAS will review it after H.P's quick note on it. I don't think HP's was really a full review, its more like a summary. It would be nice if Stereophile reviews it. There is a reviewer in the recent Stereophile issue who did a followup on the Nagra phono preamp with the VPI Classic and he is pretty high on it too. But no full review of the Classic in Stereophile yet. I don't see anything wrong with cmalak wanting the views of several experts on the turntable to make a good purchase. All of sunday niagara's comments are like that or may be its the tone....I don't know and couldn't care less. I do care to know what other experts who have actually heard this and many other tables think of this product specially when Harry Pearson says "the classic holds its own against the Clearaudio statement turntable". ..... the more expert views on this the better.
Here it is: http://www.avguide.com/review/hifi-plus-68-the-vpi-classic-turntable. It is now posted on AVGuide. Similar to Marck Mickelson's review that I posted earlier from TAB, Roy Gregory's review from Hifi+ focuses on speed stability, power, and dynamic range of the VPI Classic. Also emphasizes the Classic's ability to portray space very well. He says resolution/detail is there for the listener to pick out but it is not spot lit, which to me is a positive more natural sounding presentation. Sam, if you get a chance to audition the table please report on your findings. i will do the same once my local audio dealer receives their Classic.
Hey Mark...sorry looks like the review of the Classic on Hifi+ was released first to GEC members and should be released i think to everyone else in a week (i think) on the AVGuide site. I didn't see the GEC moniker next to the article when I fist posted it. It will be out shortly I guess.
SundayNiagara...I don't need to wait for the review...if I like what I hear when I audition it, then it gets on the short list. the only reason I am asking about a potential review is that this would be my first tt setup ever and so the reviews help me classify the sonic qualities of the competing tables in the price range i am considering, and since tt auditioning at high-end audio dealers is not as prevalent or easily done as it once was, what the reviews do is help supplement the auditioning process...thx for asking :-)
Sam...i don't take offense to either SundayNiagara's question or his tone...although I do seem to recall someone harassing a certain JV about his opinions on recenlty introduced gear from ARC :-)
it's all good
Also looking into the VPI classic and saw it in the Esoteric room at the CES 2009. At that Time I didn't know it's price or much about it. HP is pretty high on it and gave it a golden ear award for 2009 along with almost every other VPI table that is released every year. Is there a VPI table that's not fantastic or doesn't win golden ears? lol If anyone tested it let us know. Is it really better than the VPI superscoutmaster rim drive????
Harry Weisfeld has built some pretty amazing products over the years. He does a huge amount of analog research, is extremely knowledgable and is one of a very few people who will answer your questions honestly. Even though I don't own and never have owned a VPI, I have tremendous respect for Harry's design abilities and will most certainly give him the benefit of doubt regarding the above post.
It's an interesting endorsement, especially not having owned a VPI ever. Him being a great guy, and doing research and knowledge is all great, but has anyone actullay tried it in their system and if they did what other components did you use associated with it.
Go look in audioasylum.com .
Mark
new review of the VPI Classic that just came out on The Audio Beat (new audio website from Marck Mickelson, former editor at Soundstage.com, and Paul Bolin, formerly of Stereophile). Review emphasizes the Classic's rythmic and timing stability and dynamic presentation. Interesting review. Here it is:
http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/vpi_classic.htm
Does TAS have any plans to review the VPI Classic any time soon? There seems to be a fair amount of enthusiasm by early adopters of this new tt from VPI on various forums and also a fair amount of controversy given the seeming 180 turn Mr. Weisfeld has taken in reversing certain key tt design principles (integrated motor in plinth vs. stand-alone motor, aluminum vs. acrylic platter, etc...). I know HP gave the VPI Classic an Editor's award mid-year but was wondering if TAS plans to do a more comprehensive review. Thx
So, have you auditioned one yet?
Waiting for my local VPI dealer to get one (has one on order).
And if you like it, will you purchase it, or still wait for the TAS review?
i.e., do i need external affirmation to make me feel good about my audio purchases?
I hope you don't, but you'd be surprised how many people need to see a review first.
Hi fi+ reviewed it in the recent issue 68 (available online) and also awarded it Turntable of the year award for 2009. I doubt that TAS will review it after H.P's quick note on it. I don't think HP's was really a full review, its more like a summary. It would be nice if Stereophile reviews it. There is a reviewer in the recent Stereophile issue who did a followup on the Nagra phono preamp with the VPI Classic and he is pretty high on it too. But no full review of the Classic in Stereophile yet. I don't see anything wrong with cmalak wanting the views of several experts on the turntable to make a good purchase. All of sunday niagara's comments are like that or may be its the tone....I don't know and couldn't care less. I do care to know what other experts who have actually heard this and many other tables think of this product specially when Harry Pearson says "the classic holds its own against the Clearaudio statement turntable". ..... the more expert views on this the better.
Have you been able to hear the "Classic?"
Here it is: http://www.avguide.com/review/hifi-plus-68-the-vpi-classic-turntable. It is now posted on AVGuide. Similar to Marck Mickelson's review that I posted earlier from TAB, Roy Gregory's review from Hifi+ focuses on speed stability, power, and dynamic range of the VPI Classic. Also emphasizes the Classic's ability to portray space very well. He says resolution/detail is there for the listener to pick out but it is not spot lit, which to me is a positive more natural sounding presentation. Sam, if you get a chance to audition the table please report on your findings. i will do the same once my local audio dealer receives their Classic.
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Hey Mark...sorry looks like the review of the Classic on Hifi+ was released first to GEC members and should be released i think to everyone else in a week (i think) on the AVGuide site. I didn't see the GEC moniker next to the article when I fist posted it. It will be out shortly I guess.
SundayNiagara...I don't need to wait for the review...if I like what I hear when I audition it, then it gets on the short list. the only reason I am asking about a potential review is that this would be my first tt setup ever and so the reviews help me classify the sonic qualities of the competing tables in the price range i am considering, and since tt auditioning at high-end audio dealers is not as prevalent or easily done as it once was, what the reviews do is help supplement the auditioning process...thx for asking :-)
Sam...i don't take offense to either SundayNiagara's question or his tone...although I do seem to recall someone harassing a certain JV about his opinions on recenlty introduced gear from ARC :-)
it's all good
"although I do seem to recall someone harassing a certain JV about his opinions on recenlty introduced gear from ARC :-)
it's all good"
And that wasn't me. I'm a card carrying member of the ARC fan club.
PS: I think this is what you referred to:
"Anonymous_XXXUserXXX (not verified) -- Thu, 10/22/2009 - 15:41
Sunday,
What's the rest of your system? Have you heard the ARC yourself?
Mr. Valin seems to be very tepid about it. Does that mean you will steer away from it?"
as am I :-) just giving you a hard time...
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