Squeezebox and management software

default -- Sat, 01/10/2009 - 23:09

I've set up a server with Squeezebox Duet and iTunes, and ripped a large percentage of my CD library into the PC that I'm using as an exclusive music server in Apple Lossless code. Have to admit that the sonics I'm getting is quite impressive. I'm wondering if anyone has set up Squeezebox and the Squeezecenter to use other music management software and tried to integrate it? Maybe something like Real, Amarok, Windows Media Player, or Foobar? Something like Foobar may be an advantage due to the numbers of file types it can support like FLAC files from someone like Music Giants. I'm not sure if a FLAC file will work with iTunes, but I may just be ignorant of the facts. Anyone done experimentation or have good experience with the Squeezebox and anything other than iTunes?

Steven Stone -- Sun, 01/11/2009 - 10:46

FLAC will NOT work with iTunes just as a Squeezebox system will not work without Squeezecenter running on a computer at all times while you accesss your home music library.
 
SqueezeCenter acesses a music library and doesn't care what other music player you use since it does not use that player but only its library files.
 
Check out Logitech's forums for novel and occasionally sucessful solutions to Squeezebox library issues.
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

MusicDawg (not verified) -- Sun, 01/11/2009 - 17:35

Thanks for the response and the tip. One more neophyte question.... Let's say I download a hi-res file from someone like Music Giants (WMA); can I add that folder to iTunes and play it back through the Squaeezebox with its full bit content?

Bob Parish (not verified) -- Sun, 01/11/2009 - 18:07

Hi MusicDawg,
Yes, you can include high-res files in the iTunes library.
Quick Player will play them, but Apple TV and iPod not.
Bob

technology (not verified) -- Sat, 03/13/2010 - 12:17

Why FLAC? To my ears, the mp3 @ 256kbs sound just as good as 48khz CD. now 96khz is all different story...
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Steven Stone -- Sun, 03/14/2010 - 10:43

To my ears its easy to tell MP3 (even at 320 BPS) files from lossless formats such as and including Apple Lossless, FLAC, AIFF, and WAV files. 320 MP3 files lack the top end extension and low-level resolution of a lossless files.

And, yes I've even confirmed this with blind A/B/X listening sessions.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

Steven Stone -- Thu, 07/01/2010 - 09:21

 Flac and iTunes are not compatible.
 
I load Flac files on memory sticks and play them with the new Squeezebox Touch USB slot.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

harsh7 -- Sun, 07/04/2010 - 11:02

 the sonics I'm getting is quite impressive. I'm wondering if anyone has set up Squeezebox and the Squeezecenter to use other music management software and tried to integrate it? Maybe something like Real, Amarok, Windows Media Player, or Foobar? Something like Foobar may be an advantage due to the numbers of file types it can support like FLAC files from someone like Music Giants. I'm not sure if a FLAC file will work with iTunes, but I may just be ignorant of the facts,.thank you,.AVG coupons

tugcekayitmaz -- Fri, 07/09/2010 - 12:33

Why FLAC? To my ears, the mp3 @ 256kbs sound just as good as 48khz CD. now 96khz is all different story...
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Steven Stone -- Mon, 07/12/2010 - 09:24

You are in a minority.

Most audiophiles, including myself, have done A/B's of MP3 vs lossless. I heard a noticeable and repeatable difference. MP3s (even at 320 kbs) lack the high frequency extension of lossless files.

FLAC is an excellent lossless methodology for PC owners. For MAC owners FLAC is PITA due to MAC's OS not supporting FLAC. To play FLAC files on a MAC requires additional steps and software.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

fyzzics -- Sat, 08/07/2010 - 11:11

It's actually pretty easy to add FLAC support to iTunes. Just download Fluke and away you go: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/06/12/how-to-play-flac-files-in-itunes/

Steven Stone -- Sat, 08/07/2010 - 12:01

Fluke works nicely on 44.1/16 files but does not support higher bit resolutions.

Thanks for the links.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

ctbarker32@gmail.com -- Thu, 08/12/2010 - 15:29

The contest over high resolution lossless formats is largely over. FLAC is the only format you should be considering for any serious sever based music system now and going forward. The reasons for this are many but inlcude:
1. Flac is open source and is not encumbered by patents, etc.
2. Flac is lossless - no difference in quality from native WAV, etc.
3. Flac is taggable. A critical component of a music server is proper track tagging and management.
One of the best tools for managing large music server collections is Media Monkey. Using a tool such as Media Monkey you can easily transcode your music to MP3, AAC, etc as you portable needs require.
I have been using this system for about 6 years and it has withstood the test of time.
As Steve suggests, the Slimdevices forum is a great resource for more information.
-CB

Steven Stone -- Sat, 06/04/2011 - 08:35

 I agree that the contest is over, but not because FLAC "won", but because ANY form of compression is unnecessary in an age of $50 1T hard drives.
"Native" files can be, and often are, AIFF as opposed to WAV.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

Michael James -- Sat, 06/04/2011 - 10:11

I'm Mac based and if we want to play something that was downloaded in FLAC format,  we have to use conversion software, like MAX or xACT to change it into AIFF or lossless, in order to play it.
I like iTunes, but there is also other players, like Audirvana and VLC , to name the better ones.

Do you want to better or do you want to be good?
 

Steven Stone -- Mon, 11/07/2011 - 09:45

Both Pure Music and Amarra will Play FLAC and convert virtually on the fly.

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

vade@att.net -- Tue, 11/08/2011 - 07:48

Steven, the reduced size of FLAC files is certainly appreciated when downloading an album.
 
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