Spam filters are rejecting posts again

danielaparker -- Fri, 05/21/2010 - 22:12

The situations with the spam filters appears to be back, I was unable to post a response in a thread I had started on the Debussy DAC, nor did anyone followup on my submitted request to have my article posted.  I don't get it, this is the only site anywhere that seems to have this issue, it's as if the runners of this site are completely indifferent to killing off discussions.  This has nothing to do with ordinary spam filtering, ordinary spam filtering doesn't do that.
-- Daniel

Tom Martin -- Sat, 05/22/2010 - 13:45

I think this happens because our spam system has a manual element. When a post is flagged as spam, it has to be approved by a human (Kit in this case). Kit isn't around 24/7. Rob is looking at whether we just go back to the old system (which got complaints because we had too much spam, leading to this approach), or we may try a third approach. With spam, there seems to be no perfect answer. Sorry for the hassle.

CEO and Editorial Director, Nextscreen LLC

danielaparker -- Sat, 05/22/2010 - 16:41

I tried to reply to your post, but that was also flagged as spam )-:

DH -- Sun, 05/23/2010 - 05:15

Again, my suggestion:

You have to be registered and logged in to post. No spam filtering for logged in users.

If you spam, then registration is cancelled.

Another suggestion. Put a "captcha" in the posting page that requires a human response, like an answer to a question. That will also limit spam.

I still don't get why this whole issue is such a problem for you guys. I participate in lots of forums, some are much busier than this one, and this whole issue doesn't seem to be a problem at other forums. So whatever you reasons are for your setup, it apparently isn't a good one, and there are alternatives that work better.

danielaparker -- Sat, 05/22/2010 - 16:39

Tom,
Thanks for the response.  It's frustrating to have your post vaporized after spending some time composing it, particularly in your own thread.  This hasn't happened to me for a while, so I thought you had it solved.  Many of my vaporized posts never did make it to the forum, even when the "this is not spam" box was checked, including this time.
Couldn't you solve the spam issues by allowing only posts from registered users?  That's what most audio forums do, in addition some sites moderate new members.  That would also eliminate those "product XXX is the best!' posts that come annonymously out of the blue from time to time, which is one of the more annoying forms of spam.
-- Daniel

firedog -- Sun, 05/23/2010 - 05:13

 Again, my suggestion:
You have to be registered and logged in to post. No spam filtering for logged in users.
If you spam, then registration is cancelled.
Another suggestion. Put a "captcha" in the posting page that requires a human response, like an answer to a question. That will also limit spam.
I still don't get why this whole issue is such a problem for you guys. I participate in lots of forums, some are much busier than this one, and this whole issue doesn't seem to be a problem.

Tom Martin -- Sun, 05/23/2010 - 08:27

We're switching to registered users only. That's the basic solution for most forums. That requires some prep and notification which is going on now.
We wanted to be more open than "registered only" to make the site more friendly and involving for casual and new users. Along with this we tried several software-based spam solutions. Obviously, they don't work very well.

CEO and Editorial Director, Nextscreen LLC

JLeeMD -- Tue, 05/25/2010 - 16:42

I'm a registered user and a GEC member and I get spam-blocked regularly.  It's infuriating to write a long thought out reponse to a post only to have it spam-blocked. 

Steven Stone -- Tue, 05/25/2010 - 09:24

 But despite these blocks the Spammers have no trouble posting DVD cracking software posts.
 
Maybe we should find out what their secret is?
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

Suteetat -- Tue, 05/25/2010 - 18:40

Whatever the solution is, I hope it is done soon. At this moment, I am sick and tired of trying to post anything on this site.
I would say that about 70% of my post got rejected. I also logged in first.
On one thread, anything more than 1-2 lines automatically got rejected. Of course, reporting to webmaster
seems to do absolutely nothing and is a waste of time also as nothing was ever done to rejected post.

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