Multi-Room Audio-Do I really need 6-zone system for 2 or 3 zones

default -- Sun, 04/26/2009 - 19:48

All,
I come to this forum very humbled. Also, understand that it has taken nearly 4 years just to convince my wife to put more than $1k in this room for anything related to audio. I say that as I understand that my product selection may not be considered even middle of the road in quality, but it's better than the nothing I have now. Here is the situation:
1)Builder wired home  for multi-room A/V in 3 zones (formal dining, master b/r, and space between kitchen and keeping room) using Cat-5 and speaker wires to power lines dropped in finished ceiling for pair of in-ceiling speakers in each room
2)My main listening area, the keeping room, is 14w x 10l x 9h. This room is immediately connected to my kitchen, so the entire space of my keeping room and kitchen is 14w x 25l x9h. I plan to put a 5.1 system in the keeping room (currently own Pio 50" 5060, and planning to buy PSB Imagine T-55 towers, B-15 bookshelves, C-60 center, and HSU 10" sub, Episode A4-ICs in the ceilings)
3) I also need a receiver but, that will hinge on the advice anyone can provide me.
My A/V installers have recommended a Pio 5.1 receiver to power the receiver in the main room, PLUS a $1200 Channel Plus MDS-6A-Kit #2 which allows for 6 sources, 6 zones, and 6 key pads to power my other zones.  I need to know if the that kit is overkill given the following:
a) While I have 3 zones for in-ceilings and the volume controls, one of those zones is squarely between the keeping rm (my main rm) and the kitchen, and I really can't imagine that I would truly ever need a separate/distinct zone there since the 5.1 would provide sufficient sound to power the keeping rm and the kitchen. So essentially I think I would ONLY need power to the other 2 zones where I might actually have a different source playing. Am I being limited in my thinking on not feeling I would use the 3rd zone?
b) The chances that I would ever have have more than 2 sources of music playing at the same time in the house is pretty low. At most I would play one source in keeping room and another in the bedroom, or dining room and bedroom, but never all 3.
Like I said, I'm wondering if what they have recommended is overkill, and wondering if I couldn't get away with a nice dual zone 7.1 receiver to power my 5.1, and use the 2nd zone of the receiver to power my 2 zones (master bedroom and dining room). I am also very cost conscious given how long it's taken for me to get my wife to buy into this. I understand that it's tough for an A/V to power more than a pair of speakers in that 7.1 system, so at extreme volumes, this would be suboptimal.
Finally, here are a couple of things that local retailers have thrown out.
Installing impedence controlled volume controllers and do the 7.1. This would prevent the A/V from being pushed too hard if for some reason I decided to run the 5.1 and the 4 speakers in the 2 zones all at the same time. Again, I would never have the volume in the other two rooms high enough to shake the house, or
Using the RTI, RK1 control modules in the 2 zones and a regular 7.1.
Can anyone recommend a receiver and whatever support is needed that would allow me to have background music in the secondary rooms and the 5.1 in the main, without exceeding $1,200 between the receiver and support for whole house audio?
Thanks in advance! :)
 
 
 
 
 

Steven Stone -- Mon, 04/27/2009 - 10:30

 Just because you're wired for all these rooms doesn't mean you need to have them all active.
 
I think your plan to start with the most important rooms and see if you need more makes sense.
 
I would also suggest that you might want to put a separate system using existing wires in the master BR - perhaps a Sonos 120.
 
It would exceed your budget, but once your wife tries a Sonos with Rhapsody she may come around...
 
 
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

SubConscious71 (not verified) -- Mon, 04/27/2009 - 18:30

Thanks Steven, this is really helpful and the Sonos 120 would be really nice in the Master B/R. Thanks again..I really appreciate the quick feedback.

Steven Stone -- Tue, 04/28/2009 - 12:13

 Another feature of the Sonos is that since it has an analog input - you could hook up another source such as a TV or radio tuner to the Sonos AND any other Sonos you buy later will have access to that source as well.
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

SubConscious71 (not verified) -- Mon, 05/04/2009 - 23:01

Steve,
Thanks again.  I have one other question since I actually decided to purchase the Russound system with a few keypads.
Here is my question, do you think I would be in over my head if I attempted to set up that system myself? I'm not an installer, just an average consumer who reads and follows directions well. Preliminary, it seems relatively simple since I don't have to run any wires. I just have to make the connections at the key pads and at the back of the amplifier.
 
As a reminder, all of my wires (Cat-5 and speaker) are run to the key pad locations and all terminate where I would connect to the amplifier. At that termination point, my previous a/v guys left four sets of bundled cables (one for each zone), each containing a Cat-5, a pair of speaker wires (red and white) and a 4th set of wires that have a blue jacket. That set of wires (cat-5, 2 speaker, and blue wire) is in one large yellow jacket that says, "24/4PR & 16/4 type CMR device". Also, I will only be using 2 zones, so I only need to install 2 keypads.
 
So given what I've described, and your expertise, am I in over my head, or can I do this on my own?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
 

Steven Stone -- Tue, 05/05/2009 - 09:32

 Hello SubConcious71,
 
As long as you're fully awake and have the proper tools to do the job I see no reason why you shouldn't try connecting the gear yourself.
 
Do as much research as possible (as it seems you have already begun) and take it slow - also don't power anything up until you're sure it's wired correctly.
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

chandu (not verified) -- Tue, 09/08/2009 - 06:14

Does Sonos have six zone amplifiers?

Steven Stone -- Tue, 09/08/2009 - 09:32

 Sonos does not have "six zone" amps because it doesn't work that way.
 
Sonos is a two-channel solution where each device can take care of one room. Six channel amps were designed to be used to power six speakers so they could be placed in various locations throughout your home (usually in stereo pairs).
 
If you are looking for a multi-channel wireless solution (which is why you might want six channels), Sonos is not going to work for you.
 
 

Steven Stone
Contributor to The Absolute Sound, EnjoytheMusic.com, Vintage Guitar Magazine, and other fine publications

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