Only heard them at shows, where the combination of ceramic and diamond drivers made them sound like cooler, more highly controlled versions of Kharma speakers.
Thx John,,,,that seems to be the opinion I am hearing from some others as well...in which case, considering their considerable cost, I might be inclined to pass. I do like the Kharmas. I used to the older 2.2 version (wih the focal titatinium driver) and liked it very much indeed. I am currently searching for speakers that a) my DartZeel power amp is sufficient to drive (I don't listen at concert levels) b) not very large in physical size c) have an open quality to them but not enough bass slam (I listen to jazz, blues, rock, funk but not much classical) d) mid range purity that will mate well with slight sweetness of my Darts that love dearly e) great soundstage and dissappear, aethetically appealing to me and WAF (very subject thing) ...and finally hopefully are USD 30,000 or under but if really superb can go a bit higher.
The ones that I am considering are Magico V3 (tried them already but need to again, I like the Minis but think they need more power), Hansen Knight, AudioMachina Pure System (but not available here yet), Kharma Exquisite Mini, Thiel 3.7 (looking fwd to Absolute Sound's upcoming review!), Rockport Grand Mira.... any comments or ideas?
I should probably add for some reason I don't like Wilson's general (the 7s and Sophia I've tried...they sound "dry" to me, just not my cup of tea I suppose), while the Revel Studios I find unattractive, appearance wise (not all of us are purists! + they probably need more power). Marten Design Bird is another model I tried but a) their front to back depth (size wise) is too big an b) I found them a bit hard sounding, u know? Sonus Faber to me is too warm at the other side of spectrum...Another model, I am thinking about is Dynaudio Sapphires....would appreciate any comments you may have.
Or if its any help, the best system I've heard personally was all ARC Ref Gear including the Ref CD player, 610 (?) monoblocks, Ref 3 pre amp, MIT Cable (whatever the top of line was) and the Magico Model 6..listened to at a big room, well set up, at a dealership and was astounded.
You can't go wrong with either Magico. If you liked what you heard, and they fit within your budget, go for one of them.
I've got the Mini2 and you're right in saying they need more powerful amplification than the 3. They do less bass than the 3, but disappear more than the 3 and, to my ears, sound more 'of one piece' (ie I can't hear any quality difference between the drivers, nor can I hear where one takes over from the other), and much more refined. Otherwise, the sound quality is pretty similar between the two.
I wouldn't swap my Mini-2s for a pair of 3, but some others I know prefer the 3 due to the bass component. Having said that, Mini-2 + ARC 610T is way more expensive than 3 +ARC 210 (for example).
Only heard them at shows, where the combination of ceramic and diamond drivers made them sound like cooler, more highly controlled versions of Kharma speakers.
Thx John,,,,that seems to be the opinion I am hearing from some others as well...in which case, considering their considerable cost, I might be inclined to pass. I do like the Kharmas. I used to the older 2.2 version (wih the focal titatinium driver) and liked it very much indeed. I am currently searching for speakers that a) my DartZeel power amp is sufficient to drive (I don't listen at concert levels) b) not very large in physical size c) have an open quality to them but not enough bass slam (I listen to jazz, blues, rock, funk but not much classical) d) mid range purity that will mate well with slight sweetness of my Darts that love dearly e) great soundstage and dissappear, aethetically appealing to me and WAF (very subject thing) ...and finally hopefully are USD 30,000 or under but if really superb can go a bit higher.
The ones that I am considering are Magico V3 (tried them already but need to again, I like the Minis but think they need more power), Hansen Knight, AudioMachina Pure System (but not available here yet), Kharma Exquisite Mini, Thiel 3.7 (looking fwd to Absolute Sound's upcoming review!), Rockport Grand Mira.... any comments or ideas?
I should probably add for some reason I don't like Wilson's general (the 7s and Sophia I've tried...they sound "dry" to me, just not my cup of tea I suppose), while the Revel Studios I find unattractive, appearance wise (not all of us are purists! + they probably need more power). Marten Design Bird is another model I tried but a) their front to back depth (size wise) is too big an b) I found them a bit hard sounding, u know? Sonus Faber to me is too warm at the other side of spectrum...Another model, I am thinking about is Dynaudio Sapphires....would appreciate any comments you may have.
Or if its any help, the best system I've heard personally was all ARC Ref Gear including the Ref CD player, 610 (?) monoblocks, Ref 3 pre amp, MIT Cable (whatever the top of line was) and the Magico Model 6..listened to at a big room, well set up, at a dealership and was astounded.
You can't go wrong with either Magico. If you liked what you heard, and they fit within your budget, go for one of them.
I've got the Mini2 and you're right in saying they need more powerful amplification than the 3. They do less bass than the 3, but disappear more than the 3 and, to my ears, sound more 'of one piece' (ie I can't hear any quality difference between the drivers, nor can I hear where one takes over from the other), and much more refined. Otherwise, the sound quality is pretty similar between the two.
I wouldn't swap my Mini-2s for a pair of 3, but some others I know prefer the 3 due to the bass component. Having said that, Mini-2 + ARC 610T is way more expensive than 3 +ARC 210 (for example).
You can`t go very wrong with the Avalon Indra either, well worth a try.