In a system consisting of Musical Fidelity A308cr cd player (7-8 years old?) to a C-J CT 5 preamp via Kimber Hero to a Marsh A400 via Harmonic Tech ProSil II to Dunlavy SC IV s via Monster puting the Lavry into the aforementioned equation equaled HUGE gains in low (and lower)dynamic information. My cd of Ellington/Mingus/Roach "Money Jungle" whereas I couldnt hear the bass hardly at all now it's in proper perspective. From the next room I keep hearing , "Yes!" That's much better". Body, "There" there without fatigue, so much more abiance, the almost not there sounds that give us the sence of the real, low level informationm that fills in the actual studio recording. I'm contasting it with my Nottingham 294/Dynavector 17D3 cartridge. The ttable wins but not by much.