This is true - also for B&K. But both companies have a) moved into the Home Theatre Market and produce - for want of a better term - hybrid products doing dual duty, and b) the Audio Mags' are avoiding "affordable" products in favor of the ES(EXTREMELY SILLY) priced variety: most particularly Stereophile. Their judicious editing of reviews ensures that good quality, sensibly priced gear is made to look somehow only worth buying for ones' den, office or cloth-eared kids, whilst that subtle improvment from a giga-buck priced component over a well designed & made, fairly priced product is actually worth the 10's of 1000's extra they're asking. If you've more money than sense, I suppose they are. The most recent example of this bias is the Oppo DV-970HD & it's current replacement. What's your poison: Ferrari or Lotus? Gordon Holt IMO, has the right of it and JA & Co remain in denial.
Oliver Amnuayphol
Home Theater/Audio Guru
Aperion Audio
Gonzalo -- Mon, 02/11/2008 - 21:13
The brand thing has become a reviewers feeding frenzy at time and I am not pointing fingers here .. please . .. .
But an Adcom amplifier to sound really musical you really need to modify its output stage and heavily swap components in the power supply, if and when you do, they become very nice and inviting sounding amplifiers spend hours tuning them to achieve thair best character.
Other amps are really good from the get go, of course more money.
Some of the solid state design of Audio Research, Aragon, Krell, Mark Levinson, Classé; Threshold, Jeff Rowland, and many otehr can sound pretty good form the get go, now price is an issue.
look into Muse, Audible Illusions, and some other brands that are found today in the used market for a song and can easily outperform the best Adcoms ever made and most B&K also (not all though).
Now with the re birth of tubes adn most of inexpensive (trying to avoid the other word), quality being pretty good, no they don't have transformer hand wound with silver wire like Wavacs do for a mere $40K but they sound good and musical and clean, once you put tubes in your system you will not go back to Adcom I can almost certainly guarantee you that.
If you get the tube bug and it bites you, don't forget I warned you first .
If you get bored of a particular sound signature just find a different sounding tube (there are usually many colors and flavors to suit your tastes adn moods, etc) like an NOS tube or an old German tube or form France (Mazda) or form UK (mullards, Brimar, etc.) or our good'óle USA Sylvania, GE, RCA, Amperex, Tung-SOL, etc. etc. or Hungary, Tungsram, or Japan, or Russian or Chinese or . .. the list of flavors is long and variety is absolutely awesome so . . go tubes!!! long life to tubes!!!
ktaillon wrote:Why is it that Adcom is never in any type of review in the magazine anymore? Ever since Tweeters stop selling the line, you never hear about them.
They seem to have stopped producing audiophile gear and are instead selling video stuff. Their best CD/DVD player is not as good as their last good CD player
I own a old Adcom 750 series CD player but, as it is 8 years old, I was hoping to replace it with the current top of the line. Unfortunately, that is a home theater device and does not appear to be areal audio device so...
My old 750 still sounds better than anything else I own.
I think the main reason is that Adcom has released very few new products until recently.
This is true - also for B&K. But both companies have a) moved into the Home Theatre Market and produce - for want of a better term - hybrid products doing dual duty, and b) the Audio Mags' are avoiding "affordable" products in favor of the ES(EXTREMELY SILLY) priced variety: most particularly Stereophile. Their judicious editing of reviews ensures that good quality, sensibly priced gear is made to look somehow only worth buying for ones' den, office or cloth-eared kids, whilst that subtle improvment from a giga-buck priced component over a well designed & made, fairly priced product is actually worth the 10's of 1000's extra they're asking. If you've more money than sense, I suppose they are. The most recent example of this bias is the Oppo DV-970HD & it's current replacement. What's your poison: Ferrari or Lotus? Gordon Holt IMO, has the right of it and JA & Co remain in denial.
Looks like Emerson recently purchased a majority stake in Adcom. Of course, they're calling it a "joint venture":
http://www.adcom.com/data/01_04_08_ADCOM_Release.pdf
It'll be interesting to see what happens...
Oliver Amnuayphol
Home Theater/Audio Guru
Aperion Audio
The brand thing has become a reviewers feeding frenzy at time and I am not pointing fingers here .. please . .. .
But an Adcom amplifier to sound really musical you really need to modify its output stage and heavily swap components in the power supply, if and when you do, they become very nice and inviting sounding amplifiers spend hours tuning them to achieve thair best character.
Other amps are really good from the get go, of course more money.
Some of the solid state design of Audio Research, Aragon, Krell, Mark Levinson, Classé; Threshold, Jeff Rowland, and many otehr can sound pretty good form the get go, now price is an issue.
look into Muse, Audible Illusions, and some other brands that are found today in the used market for a song and can easily outperform the best Adcoms ever made and most B&K also (not all though).
Now with the re birth of tubes adn most of inexpensive (trying to avoid the other word), quality being pretty good, no they don't have transformer hand wound with silver wire like Wavacs do for a mere $40K but they sound good and musical and clean, once you put tubes in your system you will not go back to Adcom I can almost certainly guarantee you that.
If you get the tube bug and it bites you, don't forget I warned you first .
If you get bored of a particular sound signature just find a different sounding tube (there are usually many colors and flavors to suit your tastes adn moods, etc) like an NOS tube or an old German tube or form France (Mazda) or form UK (mullards, Brimar, etc.) or our good'óle USA Sylvania, GE, RCA, Amperex, Tung-SOL, etc. etc. or Hungary, Tungsram, or Japan, or Russian or Chinese or . .. the list of flavors is long and variety is absolutely awesome so . . go tubes!!! long life to tubes!!!
I hope this helps;
God Bless!;
Gonzalo
ktaillon wrote:Why is it that Adcom is never in any type of review in the magazine anymore? Ever since Tweeters stop selling the line, you never hear about them.
They seem to have stopped producing audiophile gear and are instead selling video stuff. Their best CD/DVD player is not as good as their last good CD player
I haven't seen Adcom at a trade or consumer show for about five years.
valvesnvinylfan wrote:Looks like Emerson recently purchased a majority stake in Adcom. Of course, they're calling it a "joint venture":
http://www.adcom.com/data/01_04_08_ADCOM_Release.pdf
It'll be interesting to see what happens...
I own a old Adcom 750 series CD player but, as it is 8 years old, I was hoping to replace it with the current top of the line. Unfortunately, that is a home theater device and does not appear to be areal audio device so...
My old 750 still sounds better than anything else I own.
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