Advice needed - Budget universal player/DAC combo - Oppo BDP-80?

CraigMN -- Tue, 05/11/2010 - 12:52

So its finally time to replace my ancient CD player.  I have almost all regular CDs, but am intrigued by higher resolution formats.  I would also like to eventually set up a music server such as a IPOD/Wadia combo (I don't want to do a computer-based server), but don't think I'm ready to completely do away with CDs.  If I need a DAC for this eventuality - does it make sense to just run with an Oppo BPD-80 and combine with a Cambridge or Musical Fidelity DAC?  Any drawbacks to this combo?  I know little about DACs - will SACD/DVD audio present any compatibility issues with DACs?  I should mention I have limited shelf space, so the BPD-80 dimensions are a good fit.  And finally, will this combo provide sonic results that would match a dedicated CD player (such as NAD BEEs, CA)?

RanaKabir -- Tue, 07/13/2010 - 22:40

DACs that accept bit-transparent DSD streams from SACDs are very expensive. So you will not be able to enjoy the true resolution of a SACD with any of the outboard DACs you mention. Why not consider the Oppo BDP-83SE. It plays every disc format under the sun with aplomb. The SE is also wired/wireless network aware and can be used as a DAC on the network (with some work) without any of the disadvantages of a conventional outboard DAC. Sound-wise, with the sole exception of the Sony SCD-XA5400ES, it beat every player under $5K in our in-house listening tests. I believe this thing has won just about every award there is from every reviewer.

Rana N. Kabir
CEO, ENDS Technologies
 

Laz Baz -- Fri, 07/16/2010 - 04:11

I had a quick glance @ http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/high-definition-dvd-player... for the Oppo BDP-83SE review and there are a few issues with ESS Technology DAC. I am not upto speed with Blu-ray. At the moment I am quite happy with Denon 1920 Universal DVD player, though it is unable to play HDCD on full resolution.

Regards
William

RanaKabir -- Fri, 07/16/2010 - 17:04

The first issue (linearity) was with the standard version and NOT the 83SE. All of the noise/distortion/settings issues which affected the SE were corrected with firmware updates since the article was written. ALSO NOTE that the testing methodology using 0dBFS was flawed by their own admission due to summing effects and they have since corrected it by going with Dolby Labs recommendations of -20dBFS (see addendum at the end of that article). This gives the SE < 0.05% THD + N, which is excellent. I replaced my 3920 with the SE and haven't looked back. The 83SE is quite frankly the best unit under a $1K (and quite possibly the best value under $5K). It’s relaxed and organic sound belies its asking price.

Rana N. Kabir
CEO, ENDS Technologies
 

Laz Baz -- Fri, 07/16/2010 - 18:21

Hi Rana,
So from what i understand, if I have the 83SE, it will play Blu-ray, SACD, DVD-A,, CD, HDCD and DVD-Video @96/24 resolution. Are there any other medium at 192/24 resoution that needs to be taken care of-now or in the near future?                                                                                                                                               

RanaKabir -- Sun, 07/18/2010 - 16:39

Yes the Oppo BDP-83SE Universal Player will play all the formats you mention and more. Blu-Ray & DVD-Audio discs, both @ 192/24 in particular, sound amazing on the 83SE. (A full list of Disc formats can be had on their website and the full list of codecs on their support Wiki.) At the moment I am not aware of any format higher than 192/24 PCM and 5.644800 MHz DSD for Consumer Audio applications. However higher resolutions do exist in the lab and for specialized applications, so it’s only a matter of time before consumers taste some of these at home but nothing in the immediate future. Assuming hardware requirements for newer codecs remain the same, I am hopeful Oppo will offer firmware updates to accommodate newer resolutions if audiophiles embrace them. The 83SE does incorporate multiple 32 bit DACs (one of the very few in the industry) and the DSP is capable of processing at 48 bit resolutions so the potential is there. Oppo leads the industry when it comes to updates to keep their players current & bug free.

Rana N. Kabir
CEO, ENDS Technologies
 

Robincm86 -- Thu, 03/17/2011 - 05:08

Well I do say I don't recommend this player because the price is too high and the scant features don't do justice to it and it has also lacks streaming services, no Wi-Fi, 3D Blu-ray not supported, user interface is barebones, DVD performance is not as good as competition the only good thing about oppo bdp-80 is that it has Great image quality, can play photos, music and videos from a thumb drive, good build quality, 7.1 analog outputs, DVD-Audio and SACD playback, good operational speed.

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