Vienna Acoustics’ Revolutionary Driver---The Ideal Realized?

Posted by: Jim Hannon at 11:11 am, June 9th, 2009

(Note: Following is the technical "sidebar" for my review of Vienna Acoustics' "The Music" loudspeaker that will appear in the September issue of The Absolute Sound. I also nominated The Music for a 2009 Golden Ear Award. Enjoy! JH)

 
Imagine a dynamic loudspeaker employing a revolutionary flat midrange driver that covers the entire range of the human voice, and works seamlessly with a hand-crafted, coincident silk dome tweeter without producing any objectionable frequency anomalies. What you’d have is a time accurate and phase coherent point source covering the range where most music lives, resulting in music with truth of timbre, an incredibly broad and deep soundstage, and an ultra-wide “sweet zone.” It certainly sounds too good to be true, but Peter Gansterer and his team at Vienna Acoustics have achieved it with their Klimt series loudspeakers, and the results are stunning!       
           
Driver arrays that replace the dust cap of the midrange cone with a tweeter, and align the centers of both units coincidently have been around for decades. Perhaps the most well-know is the Uni-Q tweeter/midrange array from KEF, now in its tenth generation, according to the KEF website. Two speakers utilizing coincident driver arrays, the KEF Model 207/2 and TAD Reference One, have been highly praised recently in these pages by AHC, and I have been impressed by their respective performances, along with the TAD Compact Reference One Monitor, at trade-shows. Along with Vienna Acoustics’ Klimt series, these concentric array speakers share a lot of compelling sonic attributes, most notably in projecting an expansive soundstage with subtle spatial and location cues across a wide listening zone, time alignment, enhanced coherency, and better matching of directivity, when compared to their more traditional, “separated” driver counterparts.. 
 
The heart of Vienna Acoustics’ remarkable The Music loudspeaker is a patented 7” flat, concentric midrange driver that is both an engineering and sonic breakthrough. This is not just marketing speak, but a major achievement, aided by advances in materials science, and the skillful application of computerized Finite Element Analysis (a numerical modeling technique using calculus developed to obtain approximate solutions to vibration systems, and typically used to solve complex elasticity and structural analysis problems). Combined with its first-order crossover, for greater phase coherency, this flat midrange with coincident tweeter is housed in a separate sealed enclosure which not only helps to extend the midrange driver’s range, but is completely decoupled from the bass cabinet to preserve clarity and natural musical timbre. Moreover, it can also be swiveled both horizontally and vertically via an ingenious pivoting mechanism, allowing minute adjustments for both rake and toe-in. The ability to aim this top cabinet separately from its lower one, housing three nine-inch bass drivers and a Murata super tweeter, gives The Music a lot of flexibility, helping one to lock-in the soundstage and achieve better tonal balance and coherency.
           
While mounting a tweeter coincidently within the midrange driver produces numerous sonic benefits than when the two units are separated, it does present other design problems which need to be overcome. With the tweeter placed at the throat of the cone, time alignment suffers and horn loading results which can produce “cupped-hands” highs or squawks. Another problem is that the addition of the tweeter to the midrange driver increases its overall mass, which can affect transient quickness. Over time, designers of coincident arrays have used lighter materials for both the midrange and tweeter drivers, as well as shortened the depth of the midrange cone and flattened its surround. However, unless the midrange driver is completely flat, phase distortion occurs as the output of the cone pumps the highs unevenly at the listener, resulting in a somewhat ragged on-axis frequency response. While a crossover can correct the irregularities in frequency response, it also alters the character and natural launch of the sound, thus impacting the purity of the midrange.
           
So why haven’t designers of coincident midrange/tweeter arrays just flattened out the midrange driver to eliminate these somewhat deleterious cone effects? The primary reasons are that the cone shape provides needed stiffness to generate sufficient output and frequency response, whereas flat drivers are too soft. The cone also acts as a wave-guide for the coincident tweeter. However, Peter Gansterer saw the design challenges associated with a flat midrange “cone” as opportunities. Indeed, some would suggest that he has been evolving his reinforced-cone, driver technology towards this goal since the introduction of his first Musi speaker in 1991. To stiffen its flat midrange driver, he used FEA to determine where to place its Spider-Cone web, essentially a lightweight net to reinforce the driver and increase its stiffness. He also employed Vienna Acoustics’ proprietary X3P “self-quieting” driver material which provides soft inner damping, but added glass fibers to strengthen the midrange in the molding process for even more rigidity without impacting mass. Adding a “self-quieting” silk dome coincident tweeter ensured that acoustic energy would be effectively dissipated across the entire surface of the array.       
           
Voilà, problems solved! Well, not so fast. Peter and his team spent several years honing at least five successive pre-production models trying to get everything right, even changing seemingly small related materials elements like glues to improve the sound. With such a sophisticated driver, there were also considerable production problems that also had to be solved, but eventually these were overcome, too, and the flat midrange/tweeter array became a reality.
           
Because of the extended low frequency response achieved with the flat midrange unit, Gansterer was able to use a relatively low crossover point (approximately 100Hz) between it and the three new 9” Spider-Cone woofers. Thus, he was also able to avoid a crossover throughout the entire practical range of the human voice. These low mass, but incredibly stiff, bass drivers are composed of a similar, yet stronger, X3P material as the flat midrange driver (sans some glass), and benefit from a similar lightweight, reinforcing web, developed and positioned on the underside of the drivers using FEA. While all three woofers work in parallel, the first has its own chamber within the bass cabinet, and its primary job is to match the performance of the flat midrange driver. The other two woofers, which are ported out the back of the speaker, add bass weight and reach down below the 20 cycle range.
           
This design approach─utilizing a wide bandwidth, flat midrange/coincident tweeter array, first order crossovers, Spider-Cone technology, and very similar low-mass, self-quieting driver materials─helps give The Music its outstanding coherency, soundstaging, clarity, transient quickness, and timbral accuracy.  Add to this a Murata super tweeter, and The Music enjoys seemingly unlimited high-frequency extension and a more life-like presence. JH
 
 
 
Designer Peter Gansterer and The Music Loudspeaker

Comments

JR-1 (not verified) -- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 12:44

If we counted all the "revolutionary" things announced in audio over the past 30 years, we'd need about ten hands. Wide-band drivers have problems - read Keith Howard's report in Stereophile about Doppler distortion from a few years ago. Then, this design is another direct-radiator - not a horn/waveguide. Horns are at the cutting-edge right now - that's not dogma. DR's have limitations which cannot be overcome.

Tim Dearing (not verified) -- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 03:46

 This is a very interesting comment, however it fails to be a reasonable argument for a number of reasons.
1). If you've heard the Vienna (which I have, have you?) you'll know that even if on paper the mechanics of this design cannot be without compromise, the plain fact is, they sound incredible by any measurement.
2). Anyone that buys a speaker because it has perfect specifications shouldn't even be listening to Hi-Fi as they've completely missed the point.
3). A sound is a very personal thing, anyone who has cupped their hands around their ears whilst listening to music will know how radically this changes your perception of the sound. How can any one design possibly be thought to be perfect for everyone, this is to deny the basic understanding that everyones perception of perfect sound is different.
4). I am also a lover of horn designs (and in fact use a pair as my main speakers), but horns by their very nature of relying on materials as guide paths, are a very long way away from a design without limitations and anyone who believes this not to be the case is clearly not being realistic.
A great many speakers are available in the World, and only a handful are of a design that makes them a speaker to truly be thought of as high end. The design is almost completely irrelevant in this part of the equation, horn, direct-radiator, ribbon, panel, quarter wave, electrostatic etc etc. The simple fact is whether it is worthy on sound merits. As this as the measuring post the Vienna's certainly fulfill every desire.

JR-1 (not verified) -- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 15:17

"The (loudspeaker's) design is almost completely irrelevant". THAT fails to be a reasonable argument !!
 
And no-one is saying to buy a speaker "based on specs". I simply stated that full-range drivers are a bad concept for music (hence their extreme rarity in high-end) and horns have far more potential. You apparently haven't heard a state-of-the-art horn. Wes Phillips and Jules Coleman just reviewed compression-driver horns in their respective publications (Stereophile and Superior Audio). These super-raves are a harbinger of things to come - for those who love music - not pop, rock and R & B.
 
The great news about horns is they don't have to cost a fortune to sound great. With boxed direct radiators, the more expensive the speaker, the better the sound. Case in point - Robert Harley's blog about the $160K Rockports- -the best he's ever heard. Boxed DR's "need" a lot of things to sound great - complex crossovers, over-engineered enclosures and very expensive drive units. So building a better box is their way of advancing the art. Horn designers see it differently - as does the "open-baffle" speaker movement, get RID of the box !!! 

Jim Hannon -- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 15:30

I believe what Peter Gansterer has accomplished with his nearly full range, flat midrange/coincident tweeter array in the Klimt series of Vienna Acoustic speakers is a "harbinger of things to come."
I suspect many other designers will be "inspired" by his work and the sonic results he has achieved.
Best,
Jim

JR-1 (not verified) -- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 18:34

I hope so...but almost every "revolutionary" claim in the past turned out to be marketing hype. And I still don't see how this driver can overcome the laws of physics - in the name of Doppler distortion.

Robert (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 20:59

Jim,
i agree that this trend will likely be seen by other manufacturers.  Before this trend, ribbon tweeters seemed to be 'the thing' with Aerial and Raidho Eben speakers coming immediately to mind.  I enjoyed your reviews of the Vienna Acoustic "The Music" and the Raidho Eben X-3.  I'm curious as to how you compare the 2 speakers now that you've heard both.  I like that Vienna Acoustics has a matching center speaker to "The Music", while i don't think Eben does.    
Thanks,
Robert

trago (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 18:25

 "The (loudspeaker's) design is almost completely irrrelevant."  IT DOES make a reasonalbe argument!  The author is saying that it is the sound that matters and not the design.  The design is only cool as to how well it reproduces music.  If it can realistically recreate the timbres  of acoustic instruments recorded in an unamplified acoustic.  One can use any number of classical recordings or something from say... Dead Can Dance.  Spirit Chaser comes to mind here.
While I haven't heard The Music - I am familiar with The Kiss - the baby of the series.  It too has the flat driver and I agree that it produces a very impressive - but believable soundfield.  It also reproduces violins as violins should sound as well as one of the most realistic pianos I have ever heard from loudspeakers.
I like technology and PG uses quite a bit here in his Music and Kiss.  The addition of the Murata super tweeter must be something to hear.  
Specs are cool and these speakers have them too.  So what is the problem here?  I see it as one person having an open mind and another as being quite the opposite.  When only one type of technology can be good at the exclusion of others doesn't sound scientific to me.  
Peace brothers!
 
 
 
 
 

Doesn't Like Haters (not verified) -- Tue, 09/15/2009 - 12:48

I think you need to see a qualified physician. Your hateritis is acting up.
 
You are right, wideband drivers do have 'doppler effect' issues. If they are cone shaped. Did you even read the article?...

jack d ii -- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 13:00

 $20,000.00+?

 Jack D II

Jim Hannon -- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 13:43

Jack,
The Music loudspeaker has a US suggested retail of $27,000, according to the Sumiko website.
The same flat midrange/coincident tweeter driver is also part of other Klimt Series products, including The Kiss at $15K and Poetry at $10K. Many of us who heard The Kiss at CES were mightily impressed.
Jim

H Stern (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 10:31

It is simply amazing that a journalistic article about an amazing new flat coincident driver could fail to mention the amazing flat coincident driver that preceded it, namely, the Thiel 3.7. I guess we're just pretending that that highly regarded loudspeaker and its brilliant engineer don't exist? Seems a bit blinkered to me, a bit too much so to be believable. Please explain.
 

wgallupe (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 11:56

"Please explain"  That's easy. A copycat...

bravevoice (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 12:41

 Seriously guys? No one is trying to take anything away from Jim Thiel and his amazing body of work. The 3.7 is quite good. I believe JH's point is that Peter Gansterer's approach seems to solve a number of issues. 100Hz is not quite full range, and so avoids the doppler effect, but, at 7" inches in diameter it has sufficient surface area to provide quite startling midrange and upper-frequency dynamics while maintaining coherency. Before you criticize and tell people that this is all marketing hype, maybe you should find a pair to listen to. I know that the Magnolia Audio Video in Santa Clara, CA just put a pair on display. They sounded absolutely gorgeous. I can't wait to read THE REST of Jim's review to see if he felt the same way I do about these speakers.
Also, Sumiko/VA showed the prototype 'The Music' at CES 2007. I believe that this was almost a year before Thiel began to ship the 3.7. How could they possibly be copycats? Again, for those who only perused the article, Peter Gansterer has been working on the development of coincidental drivers since 1991. Vienna Acoustics is an honest company building honest product for music lovers.
BTW, since when is Rock/Pop not music?

JR-1 (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 16:16

Actually, it doesn't avoid the Doppler effect - 100Hz and up is full-range enough.
 
And we need to hear how this design is different from other co-axial designs......

Jim Hannon -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 13:30

H. Stern,
I am well aware of the Thiel 3.7, have auditioned it at CES, and agree that it is "quite good." While its tonal balance is not my cup of tea, AHC loves the Thiel and you can read his review on the site. Although it has a flat surround and a coincident tweeter, I intentionally chose not to mention the Thiel 3.7 in this brief sidebar and do not plan to comment on it further in this thread. Hopefully the full review of The Music will elucidate why I believe the Vienna Acoustics is so very, very good and breaks new ground. I trust that this response is enough for the moment, but it does illustrate one of the dangers of posting sidebars and/or previews prior to the publication of the full review.
All the best, Jim

trago (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 18:28

 ARago
That driver in the Thiel isn't really flat.  It has ribs in it.  The Vienna Mr. Stern is completely flat.  What looks like ribs are actually the spider behind the speaker and not on the front.  On the Thiel - it is on the front surface.

Chris (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 14:59

Jim,
A low excursion 7" crossed over at 100hz in a flagship 3 way full range design? What's the point? To build an overpriced low efficiency speaker with inherently limited dynamics thanks to a low crossover point on the mid? I would believe the Vienna claims of "bandwidth from 100hz and up", but not that they actually crossed it that low.
Best,
Chris
 
 

Jim Hannon -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 16:18

Hi Chris,
The Music is quite efficient (91 dB) and dynamic. It has enough dynamic punch, even when driven by a 45 watt integrated Pathos Inpol2 amp, to send shivers down your spine unless you are hearing impaired. Use some beefier amps, and turn the volume higher, and I guarantee your neighbors will call the police. The sealed enclosure and first order crossover helps extend the flat midrange's low end bandwidth to 100 Hz . The actual crossover is ~12O Hz.. Hope this helps.
All the best,
Jim 

MF (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 15:28

All it needs is a minute hand and an hour hand.  Then, not only will it be time coherent, but....
also it will be...wait for it.....time coherent.  (It looks like a clock with those rib structures)
Now to be serious for a minute.  If the tweeter assembly is stationary in space then how is it possible for there to be a doppler effect?  Or, does it actually move with the midrange?  Besides time alignment, what advantage is this over an ordinary coaxial loudspeaker?

trago (not verified) -- Thu, 06/11/2009 - 18:39

 TRago
"(It looks like a clock with those rib structures)"  Now I know you never even saw these speakers.  Those "ribs" are the spider assembly which is actually on the inner surface and not the front.  It is just that the driver is rather see through.  It is also hear through.  It is as transparent a driver as an electrostatic as I am a Quad fan and have favorably reviewed Martin Logans SL3s and Aerius i Bi-Wire speakers as well as used them as reference for years.  I presently use Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1s tweeked with weights strategically placed on them.  A total of about seven pounds per speaker.  I have single Mod Squad Tip Toe blue tacked to the top as well.  I use Transparent Music Wave Super an Muslink Ultra cables between MciIntosh MC252, Audio Research SP17, Bel Canto DAC3a, Audio Alchemy DDS Pro.  A Shakti Stone sits on the amp, preamp and DAC.  A  VPI brick sits on the transport.   And a Synergistic Master Reference Power Cord is on the SP17.  The SP17 sits on a Signal Guard with a DH Pad on top of it and under the DH Cones supporting it.  I also use a Sunfire TrueSub MKII with a 75lb polished granite amp stand with DH small pads under the feet of the MC252.  The D/A uses a Essential Sound Porducts AVP power cord.  All of this with strategically placed foam on walls makes me listen to a very large soundstage with great imaging.  Now you know that with which I compare the Absolute Sound with.  What do you use MF?

MF (not verified) -- Fri, 06/12/2009 - 03:34

Please don't get me wrong.  I am not making fun of this loudspeaker or audiophiles either (although now I kind of think I should).  I just want to understand the science and engineering behind such an unusual design.  It seems to me that this type of configuration has several advantages - not just sonically, but also visually which is very important to home theater buyers.  I find it surprising that in today's marketplace, loudspeaker manufacturers (other than KEF and Thiel) haven't figured this out.  By the way, if I bought equipment like yours, I wouldn't have any money left and I'd be forced to live in a van down by the river.  Which of course would have awful acoustics - making the purchase worthless.  Nope, I much prefer my monster 70's rig with it's non-transparent "TK421" modification.

maxnix (not verified) -- Fri, 06/12/2009 - 12:51

Auditioning at CES?  I bet that was a great acoustically isolated environment for subjective evaluation!
Horns obviously have resonant frequencies.  But if you are a Klipsch lover..........
So no one is using anechoic chambers anymore?
 
 

Jim Hannon -- Fri, 06/12/2009 - 13:23

Wow. This is a tough room!
I agree that auditioning at CES (or THE Show) is not ideal, but many manufacturers are able to make their systems sound pretty darn good, including many of the horn guys like Classic Audio Reproductions and Teresonic, among others. Some of the set-ups at CES and THE Show are better than I have heard at some  dealers. If you have actually been to the Venetian Towers or THE Show, you would certainly agree that you can hear some fundamental attributes about a speaker, like whether its tonal balance is a bit too bright for your liking or not.  Could the cause have been something else in the chain? Sure. That's one of the reasons why I chose not to mention the speaker in either the sidebar or the review (Although I have heard the same source and electronics mated with other speakers sound very good, without a hint of brightness). 
Peace,
Jim

marty817 (not verified) -- Sat, 06/13/2009 - 03:31

 I don't know why there's so much fuss over a midrange with a coincident tweeter driver that "covers the entire range of the human voice" without a crossover". How about a single driver for that? The Pipedreams, may they rest in peace, and now the Scaenas use a midrange driver made by ScanSpeak  that runs from 80 Hz to 7K without a crossover. That's an awful lot of sonic territory.
http://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/12m_4631g05.htm
I have heard the Vienna at shows an they are indeed good. But a coincident driver array is by no means the only way to cover a wide range from 100Hz to 6K effectively. I would also add that there's plenty of male human voices that have healthy frequency content below 80Hz, especially bassos and deep baritones. 
Also, I'm still waiting for the day that I will hear a good horn system. If there are any that come highly recommended, please mention them by name so I can try to catch them at the next CES. Thus far, I've been completely nonplussed. Those I have heard (i.e. Avantgarde Trio) have left me with a "where's the beef?" sort of impression. However, I'm willing to be educated.

JR-1 (not verified) -- Sat, 06/13/2009 - 18:24

Most horns today sound fantastic - the Klipsch Palladium and Aspara are two that come to mind (and were reviewed recently. It's a myth that horns (today) sound "honky" and have coloration - if folks would only hear what's out there. Avantguarde has been the only popular high-end horn this decade. This was a shame, as there were others, only now coming to light..... 

DTee (not verified) -- Mon, 10/19/2009 - 05:36

 *sigh*
Need we break out the ol' abacus to discover that seven octaves from 100Hz puts us near 13kHz?
It is true that some fellas can sing very well below 100Hz.  A handful of people can also sing inaudibly high, accurately - well past 25kHz.  These voices will not be reproduced throughout their spectrum by The Music's midrange.  The point is that it does produce a great breadth of frequencies before having to blend with the smaller and larger drivers.
As some have pointed out, while the engineering side of things has great merit for debate, you simply must hear these to understand why certain numbers may or may not have practical pertinence.
As for me, when I heard the pair at Magnolia AV in Santa Monica, I wept.  In that case, driven each by a 300W McIntosh tube monobloc, The Musics produced a stage unlike any I have heard-seen.  Perhaps when I head back down there I'll have a chance to hear them aligning through something solid-state... might need an extra pair of pants for that trip.

elmura audio (not verified) -- Tue, 10/27/2009 - 20:01

Quote: "Another problem is that the addition of the tweeter to the midrange driver increases its overall mass, which can affect transient quickness. "
Actually, the tweeter is separate from the midrange in co-incident assemblies. They are both electrically and mechanically isolated. The only real problems of traditional co-incident arrays are: 1. The varying horn-loading effect; 2. The vibrational interaction; and 3. The magnetic interaction between both motors. Plus there's always the difficulty of ensuring both motors to be as effective as standalone units being that both operate in a compromised arrangement.

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