Sneak Peek: A Pair of Heavenly Integrated Amps

Posted by: Neil Gader at 9:09 am, February 6th, 2009

I’ve been listening to an exceptional pair of integrated amplifiers over the last few months and I thought I’d share a couple early impressions. The Marantz PM-11S2 and the ATC SIA2-150 are not small units. They are high power components, capable of shouldering aside even the toughest speaker loads. They are designed as a viable alternative to separates. And their performance seems to back this up. Not since the Pass Labs INT-150 have I heard this kind of robust dynamic output married to such delicate resolving power.
First things first, the Marantz ($4495) and the ATC ($6500) couldn’t be more different at first glance. The Marantz  is a classic updating of their reference line with champagne finished metal work and a  full copper chassis. The illuminated center dial indicates the input and volume while the side knobs control volume and input. Two rows of vertical buttons are illuminated in a soft blue. The whole effect is glorious, like a glowing tribute to amplifiers past and present.  The PM-11S2 is  also biampable, designed to be paired with a second PM and includes a MM/MC phono stage (the ATC does not) and enough power supply and capacitance to bump its weight up over 58 lbs. Power is a very conservative 100Wpc into 8 ohms which doubles into 4 ohms.


ATC, as many know is maker of professional active loudspeakers but they also have a more audiophile friendly “passive” line that can be paired with their own compatible electronics.  The SIA2-150 is a 150Wpc unit that’s based in large part on the topography of the amp-packs that are slipped into their active monitors. They are fairly warm running in operation with a goodly amount of Class A bias. The look of the SIA2-150 is pure Art Deco and reflects ATC founder Billy Woodman’s fondness for the visual appeal of vintage auto dashboards and studio electronics  of decades gone-by. I think it’s a very smart and distinctive look that should please many audiophiles tired of the bland, tech look of much of the gear that’s currently available.

Sonically each amp immediately establishes itself from the bottom of the soundstage on up. When a piece of music begins you can feel the acoustic space load-up with low frequency energy even prior to the first note being struck. The hall or venue itself becomes a silent presence in the listening room. Only amplifiers with deep reserves of power and control seem to consistently have this distinction. Both amps are neutral but not rigidly so. That is they both have a character and it’s a darker, warmth factor that veers away from the clinical or dry. Tonally the ATC is slightly fuller in presentation and offers a more rounded, continuous and complete soundstage effect. The Marantz seems to run as deep in the bass but its decay characteristics are not as extended in duration. The Marantz is very present in the mids and upper mids and has a glow or sheen in these regions that emphasize the beauty of strings and female vocals. It’s almost as if a couple output tubes had somehow slipped aboard that gorgeous copper chassis. Both amps enlarge and enliven the soundstage.  I still have some questions regarding the amount of air and the quality of treble extension they impart. They are different in this regard. Both very good but perhaps not quite a match for the Pass Labs. The full review of each amp will be published this spring. For the moment I’ve still got some more serious listening to do.

 

Comments

Anonymous (not verified) -- Sun, 02/08/2009 - 15:27

 
Dear Neil,
 
I have red your short brief of new Marantz PM11S2. Well, I am just trying to find partner to my Monitor Audio Platinum PL-300 speakers and highly on the list is this amp. Today is finished  listening test with EAR YOSHINO 834T and I negotiate with local dealers for the new combination. If you have some experience with speakers that I have, what you think of possible combination with Marantz?
I would appreciate any suggestion, comments from you.
 
Best regards,
 
Dino Krstulovic 

neil.gader -- Wed, 02/11/2009 - 13:12

Dino,
I haven't heard this particular Monitor Audio speaker but given its impedance and sensitivity figures and its ribbon tweeter I would be very surprised if it didn't sound territic with the Marantz. Especially since the Marantz has the nuance and delicacy in the treble to bring out the best from that ribbon. It's output also doubles into 4 ohms which suggests that it will adequately drive a speaker like the PL-300 which I believe is impedance rated at a nominal 4 ohms. The other question is how large a room you're trying to fill and how loud you typcially play your music. But I would say that for most purposes the PM11S2 will be awfully hard to beat for that money.

Neil Gader Associate Editor The Absolute Sound

Ken (not verified) -- Thu, 02/12/2009 - 22:16

I recently purchased Audio Physic Sparks and am interested in upgrading from my current solid state Arcam integrated amp for a budget (<$3,000) tubed integrated.  Do you have any suggestions?

neil.gader -- Sat, 02/14/2009 - 11:48

Ken,

You've got to take a look at the Prima Luna line of tube-integrateds. And Rogue Audio as well. They'd make a good match for the Spark.

Neil Gader Associate Editor The Absolute Sound

Ted (not verified) -- Sun, 02/15/2009 - 18:05

 
            Hi Neil,
                 Thanx for your impressions of the Marantz. I have been waiting for somebody to review this interesting integrated. I am eager to read your fuller treatment this Spring. My question is this: I am considering purchasing one of the 3 following systems to drive my Usher "Tiny Dancers"
               1) The new Cambridge DACMagic teamed with the Marantz PM11s2
               2) The Benchmark DAC/Pre with the Cambridge 840 power amp
               3)  The Marantz8003a with the PS Audio A200 pre-amp & the Cambridge 840 power amp.
 
             Also do you think is a Bryston BCD-1 would be a good match for the Marantz PM11s2? (If I decided to spend the extra money)
 
                            Thanks Neil,
                                            Ted
                                     
 
              

Anonymous (not verified) -- Sun, 02/15/2009 - 19:51

              sorry, correction to last post I meant the " PS AudioTrio P 200 Pre-Amplifier"
 
..........................Which of these sytems would you prefer???
 
                                              thanks,
                                                      Ted
                                                 
 

Drew Turner (not verified) -- Thu, 02/19/2009 - 22:25

Dear Neil,
 
I have just brought home a new Pass int 150 abot 10 days ago based on your review and It really is fantastic .I have to tell you though, I wish you would have mentioned in your review of this amp very important burn in is for the Pass to really show it's true potential.I never beleived in the burn in theory until I bought this unit.It really mabe a HUGE leap in performance after 150 hrs.and is stil limproving.The first few days I had the amp I was really feeling that I had made a bad decision and even talked to my dealer about returning the amp.Im glad I did'nt..It really is producing a lovely sound now.Fantastic.
 
Regards,
 
Drew

Dr. Who (not verified) -- Sun, 02/22/2009 - 12:33

Neil! Excellent news! I can't wait for your full review of the Marantz PM-11S2 Currently, I am in the market for a CD. I am stuck between the following two: * Sony SCD-XA9000ES * Marantz SA-11S2 Both are very well rated. Any Info. will be of great HELP(!)! Thank you!

Music_Lover (not verified) -- Wed, 02/25/2009 - 18:23

  Hi Neil Gader,  you can make the Marantz pm11s2 sound a lot better by putting two 25 pound hand dumbbells weights on top of the pm11s2. Put one on the front(sideways) and the other on the back(sideways). Let us know what you think After a few weeks?  THANKS

t1040 (not verified) -- Sat, 03/21/2009 - 08:19

Hi,
Do you think the Marantz would be suited for horn loaded speakers?  In this case it would be JBL S2600 speakers.
Thanks!

byron (not verified) -- Mon, 03/23/2009 - 05:36

Neil,
A couple things - one, you sday the Marantz is biampable, meant to be paired with another PM - what do you mean by this? That there'd be a second integrated amp, but you can somehow slave it to the first?  Or would you add an SM-11S1, meant to be controlled by the PM?
Also, do you have an ETA as to which issue this will be reviewed in?
thanks,
Byron

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