Higher Refresh Rates In LCD TVs: Do They Make A Difference?

Posted by: David Birch-Jones at 5:05 pm, August 12th, 2009

These days, most, if not all, of the latest LCD flat panel models in the middle and upper pricing tiers feature either 120 Hz (double) or 240 Hz (quadruple) screen refresh rates (480 Hz models are on the horizon). The marketing materials typically tout “greatly improved sharpness with fast-motion images,” but in the past I’ve opined more than once that with actual program material, the visible improvement isn’t all that much. It doesn’t help that many sets include a split-screen demo mode that usually feature a slowly panning high-resolution still image, which—naturally—does show a significant improvement on the processed side, but without showing how higher refresh rates will affect real-world program material. (In fairness, there are at least a few sets out there that feature split-screen demo modes that let you see the effects of higher refresh rates with actual program material—although they’re in the minority.).

With actual program material however, I’ve found there’s often little discernable improvement. With fast motion HD video such as live sports, images will almost always suffer from a certain amount of built-in camera smear, which can’t be processed away. For example, an HD image of a tee-off shot at a golf tourney will show the ball not as a round white object, but rather a smeared oval one as it finds its way sailing over the fairway. (I must give a shout-out to the HD camera operators who work their magic at golf tournaments and can uncannily follow the fast-moving ball as it soars through the air—these people are wizards in my opinion, and the same goes for cameramen who work their similar magic at hockey games).

Many of the high refresh video processors combine two functions into one, with only one of the two being desirable for some viewers. For fast motion HD video, these higher refresh rates employ “de-blur”, the technical term for the processing function that attempts to sharpen things up. For film-originated content, the video processor’s “de-judder” function attempts to smooth out the visual stuttering caused by the native 24 frames-per-second acquisition speed, almost always noticeable with any sort of horizontal or vertical camera pan. Some movie buffs object to the de-judder function’s post-processing visual result, which presents an image that many complain is too “video-y”.

And some of these schemes present noticeable artifacts as a result of the video processing in the form of occasional but noticeable picture breakup, including combing and tearing effects that are disconcerting. More than once, I’ve simply turned the high refresh function off and left it at that.

Fortunately, it appears that some of the newly-introduced LCD flat-panel models that feature high refresh rates are employing better-designed de-blur and de-judder video processing (a number of earlier models achieved their high refresh rate simply by inserting black frames in between the video frames). To do it right, sophisticated interpolation algorithms and suitably powerful processor chips are required to properly create new artifact-free inter-frames, and some recent LCD models appear to be superior with regards to the high refresh function, along with reduction of artifacts compared to past offerings.

An excellent example of who’s now doing it right would be the people at Samsung, who have recently developed their own in-house video processors. What sets the Samsung video processors apart is their ability to let users customize the amount of de-blur and de-judder processing separately, with individual controls for each function. With the Samsung approach, a viewer who wants sharper fast-motion video can adjust a dedicated de-blur control, while, if they prefer, they can turn down or even switch off the de-judder function entirely, if they’re put off by the film-smoothing effect.

Samsung is also to be credited for its new SD sharpening processor (a separate chip), which does a bang-up job of cleaning up SD video content that’s broadcast on a high definition channel. The processor actually has the ability to extract the original SD video signal from the HD video stream, and clean it up by improving the image sharpness and removing dot crawl and other SD video-related artifacts, and then re-scaling the image back to HD. I’ve seen it in action, both at a demo at Samsung’s LA lab as well as in my home, and I’m highly impressed.

Comments

ChrisH (not verified) -- Wed, 08/12/2009 - 22:50

My only experience with 120Hz in an LCD was on vacation this summer.  The house we rented was well equipped with a Samsung LCD that had 120Hz refresh, and a matching Blu-ray player that could feed it 24p material.  Using the settings from a review of the TV to at least get it closer to calibrated, and turning on the 120Hz mode, we all instantly hated it.  The Bourne Ultimatium was on in HD on TV, and after about a minute we disabled the smoothing effect as it looked, to us, like everything was being sped up unnaturally, even if it wasn't.  Maybe if we had been watching basketball instead of film we could have enjoyed it more, but for myself, I would never want to use it with film as it looks wrong to me.

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JJJJr Shabadoo (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 11:21

I have to agree with Chris'  comment.  The 120Hz sets I've seen give me the impression that the video is "sped up".  The effect is pretty disturbing to me (though my wife barely notices it).  It's a strange effect and I'm not entirely sure why it looks sped up even though it's not.

TheChairman (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 13:44

I describe it as a "BBC" look, and it does bother me as well. I can always tell 120Hz when I see it, and it's certainly not always a good thing. I'm sure it's just what we are accustomed to seeing as "normal", but I prefer it the old way for source material like film and most hour long dramas. For sit-coms and sports, they're already "TV-ey" so it's a improvement there, methinks.

Sharp Eye (not verified) -- Sun, 08/16/2009 - 02:47

I fully agree with the comments made above. In fact, I do own a samsung, and when I have it at 120hz mode - I simple hate it with a passion.  As The Charirman mentioned - it absolutely looks like the "BBC" look. I only turn on the 120hz mode when I'm watching sports - but for movies or programs the motion seems abnormal to me and I really don't like the "BBC" look.

Focuspuller (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 11:27

 "I must give a shout-out to the HD camera operators who work their magic at golf tournaments and can uncannily follow the fast-moving ball as it soars through the air—these people are wizards in my opinion, and the same goes for cameramen who work their similar magic at hockey games)."
 
Actually, HD has nothing to do with it. Professional camera operators specializing in sports have been doing remarkable work for many, many years, before HD was even a gleam in some engineer's eye. NFL Films, anyone? And last but not least, try following a horserace on a long zoom lens smoothly from across the racetrack, without an annoying, jerky, back and forth. 

bobbystrumpf (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 12:20

For de-smearing of fast moving objects at the source (in the camera), help is on it's way. Used in scientific applications for years (e.g. starwatching), "de-convolution" is a mathematical concept in which motion smear can be removed to a degree, given certain input (shutter time, shutter type (rolling/global), motion vectors, object consistency, and number of frames). Due to the amount of processing needed, this has so far only been used for off-line video (not real-time). However, with advances in processor (DSP) speeds, a new generation of HD broadcast cameras is starting to offer this ability. It's not perfect, but a small step (for mankind). Expect it in consumer products in 5 years!
 
 
 

Anonymous20090811 (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 12:31

Excellent idea in waiting until the end to mention watching Bill Maher because if mentioned at the beginning all creditability would have been lost and I would have stopped reading.  :)

sighthound3 (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 13:10

 DB.

audiomage (not verified) -- Thu, 08/13/2009 - 13:57

TO Anonymous:
You think someone loses credibility for watching Bill Maher? Really? Should they apologize?
'Gee, I am sorry I listened to someone intelligent, insightful, thought provoking, irreverent, and funny as hell.
I promise to only tune in to those who appeal to the lowest evolutionary rungs on the ladder, who appeal to our fears and hatreds
instead of our reason and better selves."
 Hard to believe that at one time being intellectual, and compassionate, was considered a good thing.
I suppose good sound coming from tubes and vinyl is suspect,
because euphony is for soft-headed liberals, and real men only use transistors and digital media.
Ridiculous? That is my point.  How can you be open minded about audio and so close minded about everything else? Sheesh! 

StBud44 (not verified) -- Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:16

If you care to notice, the original postee made his comment with a smile. You have chosen to make this a political forum, apparently. I thought it was highly suspect myself to mention  a specific show, since there are countless examples of scrolling text on television. This is only compounded by the fact that the reviewer chose to pick a show that is known primarily for its political views. BTW Bill Maher is not quite the angelic genius you make him out to be. Just because someone agrees with your narrow view of what is right, does not make them intelligent, insightful, thought provoking, irreverent, and funny as hell.
It may bear mentioning that as one postee pointed out, 120HZ can not be turned off, only the silly band-aid for LCD's inability to handle fast motion, (AMP) can be turned off. Interesting that Plasma feels no need for such marketing hyperbole.
 

Uncommon sense (not verified) -- Fri, 01/08/2010 - 06:11

I think you and many mistake irreverant as being equivalent to intelligent. Compassionate is not something I would EVER associate with Maher but the promotion of fear and hatred which I assume you ascribe to anyone who disagrees with Maher and presumably you is. Funny how those who like Maher promote themselves as compassionate and intelligent. Someone who for a living simply criticizes, mocks and scorns is not "intelligent, insightful, thought provoking.....".. He makes no contribution to anything, is not kind, does nothing to encourage, build, employ, inspire or appeal to the best and noblest in we humans. One who agrees with Maher is left with the smug impression that "they" are able to see through the confusion while all others are lesser discerning mortals who remain genetically bound to "the lowest evolutionary rungs...." By your reply YOU reveal yourself to be "close minded" to which you refer.

PH (not verified) -- Fri, 08/14/2009 - 15:08

What about high refresh rates when using console games (PS3)?  Is there any benefit?

Atom Shop (not verified) -- Fri, 08/14/2009 - 20:31

Thank god for Bill Maher. At least there a person can get the real lowdown on a topic.

Atom Shop (not verified) -- Fri, 08/14/2009 - 20:31

Thank god for Bill Maher. At least there a person can get the real lowdown on a topic.

ratmice (not verified) -- Mon, 08/17/2009 - 09:56

I think you guys are confusing 120 Hz refresh, with AMP, at least in the Samsung sets. The 120 Hz refresh is NOT user adjustable, the refresh rate of the panel is just that, how the panel is designed. In the Samsung sets AMP (motion processing) is labelled as 120 Hz for some reason (probably to confuse people). This is indeed a nausea inducing setting. SO turn AMP off, and be thankful for the 120 Hz refresh rate of the screen.

sixergixer -- Mon, 10/19/2009 - 13:44

Yes, 'sped up' is the correct quality of this supposed feature.  Every time I see a set being demo'd with 120Hz refresh rates, it instantly reminds me of when I fast-forward a blu-ray on my PS3 at 1.5x speed.  Unnatural, it is.

systemBuilder (not verified) -- Fri, 01/22/2010 - 23:41

I have purchased two top-quality 52" LCD TVs. My first purchase was an Samsung LN52A850, 120 Hz TV. I don't watch a lot of sports. I noticed that whenever I turn on the 120 Hz (Samsung offers LOW MED HIGH Auto-Motion Plus 120 Hz), after a short while I see some vertical line shimmering in a way that drives me nuts and then I turn it off. Even when watching a football game, the grass shimmers like crazy and it drives me nuts !!

I watched the 120 Hz samsung in demo mode at the Television store for what must be half an hour. The TV shows 120 Hz on one side, 60 Hz on the other side, and a high-speed banner on the bottom . Yes, truly, the very-high-speed text at the bottom of the screen was much clearer at 120 Hz. However, no news channel in their right mind will shoot text across the screen at 60 mph like the Samsung side-by-side demo mode. And when I looked at the side-by-side picture (auto racing), I really couldn't tell the difference.

So my second TV purchase was a 60 Hz Samsung LN52B550. Its 95% of the LN52A850, for 50% of the price. What's even better, the samsung DVD player can detect 24 FPS 3:2 pulldown content and it removes the 3:2 pulldown to get 2:2 pulldown and the TV plays the content at 48 Hz instead of 60 Hz. This is de-judder DONE RIGHT. So, for DVD and blue-ray, you really DON'T need a 120 Hz (= 5 * 24 fps) TV, what you need is a 48 (= 2 * 24 fps) Hz TV.

So, while my first purchase was a 120 Hz LN52A850 TV, my second purchase (a gift) was a 60 Hz LN52B550 TV.

Rom19750 -- Thu, 05/23/2013 - 08:59

I also see the shimmer in the grass whenever I watch football! Lols.  I thought I was the only one noticing that.  Isn't there a setting that might fix this issue?  Regards,Rom - Dynamite Picks Analyst

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