Giant Killers? New tubes from Sophia Electric.

Posted by: Breuninger at 10:10 am, July 9th, 2010

I don’t know if I’m more suspicious of NOS tubes or the claims of new tubes bettering them.
 
I’ve been a tube maven for 30+ years and it seems the hype and (the prices) of the best of the best NOS tubes has hit a fever pitch. Whether it’s a smooth plate Telefunken, a Bad Boy 6SN7, an RCA 845 or the mother of all tubes, the Western Electric 212E, I get anxiety at replacement time.   Are they rescreened fakes or “pulls” from an estate sale?   Not to mention, there are thousands of NOS tube types and cross variations- it makes you dizzy reading the boards about which tube works best, in what position, and in which amp. Is the purported magic of the best NOS tubes worth the hassle? Ten years ago I would have answered, a resounding, yes. Today, not so fast.
 
The continued popularity of tube amps and the shrinking supply of the best NOS tubes has enabled entrepreneurs to team with overseas specialty manufacturers to spec design, limited edition, high quality runs of tubes that can equal or exceed holy grail NOS tubes. For fear of flogging by the best NOS tube resellers, I’ll temper (somewhat) the enthusiasm I have for recommending today’s new tubes with a few words of caution. Every tube circuit is different. Pop in a NOS tube and it’s a crap shoot. Components “age”, that is, resistors drift, and capacitors “form” and each system and corresponding listener is unique.  That NOS tube may be just the ticket or it may be the beginning of endless rounds of substitutions and hand wringing. And don’t forget that today’s components are voiced with new tubes. The sound you get from that new CAT preamp is predicated (partly) upon the tubes the designer selects. 
 
High-end companies do not stock and maintain tube inventories to make money. Audio designers strive for consistency in product runs and buy parts in quantity to meet production needs. Plus, many manufacturers purchase additional parts/tubes for; 1) replacement inventory for customer satisfaction, and 2) replication of sonic signature. You will very often pay more for a set of tubes from your equipment manufacturer but you will be getting tried and true product that fits the design parameters of your specific component. Plus, the manufacturer may stand behind and guarantee the tubes. You can’t go wrong with new tubes from your component manufacturer.
 
With these caveats aside, let’s take a look at a new crop of specialty tubes. Specifically, the new coke bottle shaped 6SN7 from Sophia Electric, www.sophiaelectric.com .   Check out the beauty of the tube. Looking closely you can see the quality… even the silk screening is top-notch. 

Sophia has been designing and distributing specialty vacuum tubes since 1999. All Sophia tubes are manufactured in a small boutique facility in China. I’ll cover more must-have Sophia products in an upcoming column but suffice it to say, these 6SN7s are giant killers. I tested them in two applications, as SET amp driver tubes, and as low signal amplifiers in the reference Wyetech Opal linestage. 6SN7s have been gaining in popularity and are found at the heart of many top-notch tube preamps from companies such as Rogue Audio, Cary Audio and Atma-Sphere Music Systems.   Be warned!  This is only a preview with limited component testing.
 
The Sophia 6SN7s were put to task against several sets of NOS Silvania 6SN7s (chrome domes), standard Electro-Harmonix (EH) 6SN7s and a set of PhillipsECG WGTAs. In the Wyetech Opal linestage (after 20 or so hours of burn in), the Sophia’s had the midrange magic of the Silvania’s but added an of extra boost of three dimensionality. Overall, the Sophia’s were as colorless as the Silvania’s and the reach of the frequency extremes were near identical.  However, I noted more top-end air and openness with the Sophia’s- plus a smidgen more refinement.  On Suzanne Vega’s “Nine Object’s of Desire” her voice took on an extra amount of inner life. On the track “Headshots”, there was a marked increase in image density and a greater spotlight effect of her vocal.  Mind you, my one set of Silvania 6SN7GT’s has a good amount of hours on them (like about 300). Finding a true blue NOS pair of Silvania Bad Boy 6SN7s can cost upwards of $360. The Sophia’s are priced from $49 each and climb to over $100 depending on grade and guarantee.
 
The Phillips were bettered in every parameter by the Sophia 6SN7s.  In back-to-back comparisons, the Phillips had a hard hitting below-the-belt (midrange) punch but it came at the expense of that dreaded low-mid warmth coloration and a lack of top-end extension. Interestingly, the more common and modestly priced ($14.95) Electro-Harmonix 6SN7s were quite enjoyable with excellent clarity and staging. However, it didn’t take long to detect a less-than satisfactory holographic image and a drier lower midrange with the EH.  Preliminary testing as drivers in a pair of Komuro 845s confirmed the results. Driver tubes in power amplifiers are often more critical than the output tubes!  
 
I’ll keep you posted on other Sophia Electric tubes and compare them to other new and NOS tube offerings. I encourage you to try these and other Sophia tubes and add your findings to this blog.

Comments

brion -- Sat, 07/10/2010 - 17:29

B:
Which grade did you have?
I share your anxiety about getting new tubes. I've used Sylvania 6sn7GTs in my Hurricanes, and they seem just a bit  "ethereal", particularly in the midrange compared to the original Chinese 6 SN7s that came with the amps.
Now,  I'm sure I"m wrong about this, but the center of the 3 tubes is called the driver tube, is that correct or no? I use the Sylvanias in that location as Tosh Goka insisted the center tubes must be matched on both amps. Somehow, the sonics are less mesmerizing than I remember from the very first minute I turned on the Hurricanes and was instantly  dazzled.
I'm going to order from them (Sophias) Monday when they open and hope that that $49 dollar tubes are good enough. If I can hear an improvement in the center tube location, I'll go for the higher priced ones. I do appreciate midrange body, and I just don't hear it with the Sylvanias. Again, like you, my tubes are "NOS" tubes and God only knows how old they were when I bought them.  If someone is manufacturing good tubes these days, I'll send them all the business I can!

Breuninger -- Mon, 07/12/2010 - 15:57

Hi brion,
I had them pick a matched quartet, if for no other reason than to have each tube be worry free as to location.  The Wyetech Opal has four positions, the Komuro 845 amplifier, 2 phase splitters and 2 drivers (as my 54 yr. old brain remembers).  Like you, I'm not so fast to dismiss reg. Chinese tubes. 
I don't know about the position of the tubes on your amp.  HP raved these a while back.  I'll ask him what tubes floated that Sea Cliff boat in the Hurricane (smile).
My best!
Peter B.

TD160 -- Wed, 07/14/2010 - 05:18

Hello, i have a TL Audio Fatman iTube ValveDock Carbon Edition that has the chinese tubes, i got some substitutes tubes to try out,
replaced 2 - 6N1 for Electro-Harmonix 6AQ8/ECC85
replaced 1 - 6E2 for NOS Philips EM87/6HU6 (Magic Eye)
All the best Peter.
Tube substitutes data can be found at Franks Electron tube pages site:
http://www.tubedata.org/

brion -- Wed, 07/14/2010 - 21:48

I have to say, these are terrific tubes. Right out of the box, it was obvious they have very low distortion and quite a nice upper midrange openness that surpasses the Sylvanias - which could simply be a matter of them (the Sylvanias)  being past their prime. Still, that body of air that "floats" the harmonics over the orchestra is quite obvious. And while I'd read that the soundstage became "huge," according to one testimonial, what's more striking is their ability to separate an orchestra in layers of depth. I don't see the stage itself as "huge" but the illumination factor makes everything more apparent to the ear -- and eyes -- so the stage is lit more fully in the recesses, and even at the back, there is a sense of air behind the backmost instruments.
I'm told by Sue of Sophia Electric, that a significant improvement occurs between 24-48 hours, with 100 hours being the usual break-in period.
My tubes have barely 6 hours on them. I'm impressed. Like you, I won't be looking for NOS tubes any more. Too much of a crap shoot wondering if they're the proverbial good time "who was had by all," as Dorothy Parker intoned. I'm sure there are better tubes out there, but these are excellent without  comparison to others, if only for the very low distortion factor, which allows more music and no misty "grain" or halo effect around instruments.
I got a couple of "C" grade tubes as well, so that I could furnish one entire amp. My plan is to play a mono recording on the amp containing all 3 Sophia 6SN7s  vs. the amp with only 1 of the Sophia 6SN7s and two Sylvanias, but considering their just out of the gate, I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in them, unless paying 2-3 times as much for tubes for the sheer "status factor" floats your boat. I'm already floating on air with these. Thanks, Peter, for bringing these to light to TAS' readers.
 

brion -- Tue, 08/10/2010 - 19:19

Well, PB, it's all your fault!!!! Now I have both amps completely outfitted with the Sofias and they're great! Quite pure sound, very, very low distortion and terrific music. No darkness, as the RCAs I have seemed to have (rolled off a bit at the top, they were!) and no snap, crackle, pop. AND,  the noise floor is lower (not tremendously so, but noticeably so!)  Of course, outfitting the mono amps drove me about $450 furthur into the poorhouse, but all in all, worth it.
I'm surprised nobody else has commented on this blog about them.... 

Billt -- Sat, 08/21/2010 - 06:38

 
After reading this blog I decided to try the Sophia 6SN7’s in my Cary Audio SLI80 intergraded. I have to agree this is very short money for the improvement I’ve experienced. Brought in a soundstage that makes it hard for me to lift the stylus off the LP and go to work.

Billt -- Sat, 08/21/2010 - 06:38

 
After reading this blog I decided to try the Sophia 6SN7’s in my Cary Audio SLI80 intergraded. I have to agree this is very short money for the improvement I’ve experienced. Brought in a soundstage that makes it hard for me to lift the stylus off the LP and go to work.