First Listen: NuForce Reference 9 V3 Special Edition Monoblock Amplifiers

Posted by: Chris Martens at 4:04 pm, December 4th, 2009

Cons:

·    A tendency to present highs that can seem bright or overly lean (leading to what my colleague Wayne Garcia characterized as “highs under glass,” and that TAS Editor-in-Chief Robert Harley termed a “chalky coloration”). Personally, though, I found that the Reference 9 V2 SE made good progress toward solving this problem, which gives me hope that—when fully broken in—the Ref 9 V3 SE amps may do even better.

·    A tendency toward a slightly “mechanical” rather than “fluid” sound.

Happily, though, the NuForce folks listen—not just to their own products, but also to trusted reviewers. As a result, one of the key thrusts behind the progression from the Reference 9 V1 to V2, and now to the V3, is an ongoing attempt to build on the sonic strengths above, while mitigating or eliminating the problems. With this thought in mind, NuForce describes the intended sonic attributes of its V3 SE circuit as follows:

“The Ref 9 V3SE adds refinement and delicacy to the already excellent-sounding Ref 9 V3. When used in less than the most revealing systems, the SE's advantages may not be fully realized. As excellent as the Ref 9 V3 is, the Ref 9 V3SE takes its strengths to an even higher level. These include:

·      Sweeter highs, without any compromise in frequency extension.

·      A smoother and more palpable midrange, while preserving the natural harmonic structure for which the Ref 9 V3 is famous. The Ref 9 V3SE is one of the few amplifiers in the world that does not impart a signature on the music.  This results in a more natural and relaxed presentation.

·      The bass remains the amp's huge strength. The Ref 9 V3 SE has same tightness and texture of the standard Ref 9 V3, but with a little more weight.

·      The stage is more coherent and deeper.

In summary, the SE's sound is more neutral and liquid, with a more relaxed yet powerful soundstage presentation.”

Relative to the earlier V2 versions, the new V3 models (both standard and SE version) are rated to produce slightly less power at 8 ohms (175 W), but more power into 4 or 2-ohm loads (335 W).

Does the Ref 9 V3 SE live up to the claims NuForce makes for it? The honest answer is that I don’t know yet, since long experience with NuForce amps suggests to me that they’ll need a good bit of run-in time before their true sonic character is revealed (about 50-75 hours worth). But initial indicators are promising. I’m between stereo speaker (as opposed to multichannel speaker) reviews at the moment, so for the time being I’ve been using the Ref 9 V3 SE amps (in conjunction with NuForce’s Demian Martin-designed, two-chassis P-9 preamplifier) to drive my trusty pair of Magnepan MG 1.6 speakers.

My initial listening notes read something like this:

·    Bass: as always, is excellent. It seems to me the R9V3SE amps are able to extract better (as in deeper, tighter, better defined) bass from my Maggies than any other amps I’ve tried.

·    Mids: hard to say for sure at this stage, but I think they are somewhat more open and three-dimensional than those I heard from the R9V2SE. There’s a sense of soundstages being somewhat deeper and a fair amount wider. Also, the amps convey more of a sense of air being a “fluid medium” so that on some recordings I can much more clearly hear the sounds of instruments reverberating within their respective recording venues.

Comments

SLCity -- Sun, 12/06/2009 - 12:52

Chris,

I am in the process of upgrading from the Nuforce 9V1SE to the 9V3SE. I do not have the upgraded amps yet, but am curious about the "Focused Field" speaker cables. I have tried most of the top name-brand cables on the market, most of which are five to ten time more expensive than Nuforce's speaker cables. I currently am using Zu Ibis to connect the amps to Gamut L-7s. Have you compared the cables to anything else?

Mark

Chris Martens -- Mon, 12/07/2009 - 11:26

mlarsen,

I've not yet done back and forth comparisons, in part because I installed the cables at the same time that I installed the amplifiers. But over the course of time I will compare the focused field cables with my normal reference cables, which are Furutech Alpha References. Stay tuned.

Chris Martens

Chris Martens
Editor, Avguide.com/Playback/The Perfect Vision 

Blueheron (not verified) -- Sat, 12/12/2009 - 06:15

Thanks for the mini review on the new nuforce. Any sense of how the 9V3 SEs might compare to the Vincent gear. I am currently listening to the SV 236 MK using Maggie 1.6s. Very nice combo.

Rich

rick996r -- Tue, 12/29/2009 - 23:26

Chris, get a cold one and relax, the V2SE took over 100 hours to sound what I thought they should and while I have not gotten mine back with the V3SE upgrade, everything i have read to date states that first impressions are not very good, but after 150 hours, wow, hugh improvement in the mids and highs to complement that "killer bass".

Chris Martens -- Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:54

rick996r

How right you are. The more time I've given the Ref 9 V3 SE's, the better they sound. Of course the question this eventually introduces is, "Are they done yet, or is there more goodness yet to come?" It will be fun to answer that one.

Just out of curiosity, is your web moniker "rick996r" indicative of enthusiasm for Ducati's 996 motorcycles? I just had to ask since I've owned a Ducati 999 in the past, and now ride a Ducati Hypermotard.

Best,

Chris Martens

Chris Martens
Editor, Avguide.com/Playback/The Perfect Vision 

rick996r -- Sun, 02/28/2010 - 11:42

Chris, first, on the amps, I have had a few cold ones myself now that I have the V3SE's back and in the system. with about 100+ hours on them, I can say that they are a wonderful upgrade from the V2SE with a depth in the smoothing out in the mids and a soundstage that I can't wait to see what else I'm in store for.

Second, yes, the 996r is still with me along with a few others including a 74 Sport. I rode the Hyper and had the most fun you can have with you clothes on. Keep us updates with your impressions on the V3se's as they really brake in.

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