First Listen: Audio-Technica ATH-W5000 "Raffinato" Headphones

Posted by: Tom Martin at 6:06 pm, January 19th, 2010

 

On Playback’s march through the well-respected headphones of the major manufacturers we haven’t yet tested a top model from Audio-Technica (we’ve covered other A-T models, though: click here to download Playback’s Headphone Buyer’s Guide). In a way that’s fitting because the Audio-Technica brand lies somewhere away from the center of the radar screen. Nonetheless, Audio-Technica is a long-standing headphone brand and has a following among those in the know.

Naturally, we chose A-T’s top-of-the-line model for this test. Nominally they cost $1669.95, but you should check actual street pricing before crossing these off your list, even if you are shopping in the $600 range.

 

The ATH-W5000 “Raffinato” offers some special features in keeping with its elevated positioning:

  • *  The earcups are made of Ebony wood
  • *  Leather earpads
  • *  Neodymium magnet systems
  • *  “Eight nines” oxygen free copper voice coils
  • *  Double Air Damping System for deep bass reproduction

Those of you who’ve read my reviews in the past will know that I’m skeptical about the ability of reviewers and consumers to relate these feature lists to sound quality (years spent in E.E. and systems labs will do that to you), so we’ll leave the technology behind and get on with listening.

 

For this round of tests, I used the Esoteric DV-60 universal player as a source, and as always I ran the DAC in PCM>DSD mode since previous testing has revealed that to be the highest resolution mode for the Esoteric. The DV-60 was connected to a PS Audio GCHA amp and a Grace m902 amp/DAC via Audioquest Sidewinder interconnects. All the electronics were connected to a PS Audio Power Plant Premier on a dedicated 20 amp line.

My long-standing experience is that you can tell a lot about a component on first listen. But as a reviewer, you also learn that you can’t hear a behavior of a component until you feed a signal into it that triggers that behavior. Since I’m only part way into this test, I haven’t gone through some of my test discs. As a result, these remarks are preliminary.

 

With the A-T 5000s your initial impression is of balanced warmth. They sound like transparent headphones, with good macro balance. What I mean is that bass, midrange and treble are present in about the right amounts. I would add that the 5000s have what I've described in the past as an "n" shaped perceived response -- low bass and upper treble are reduced and mid-range is slightly emphasized. That statement is relative to the sound of live music. For a product comparison, consider the Sennheiser HD 800s, which have less relative midrange output, and more low bass and upper treble. I would characterize the HD800s as having a very slightly "u" shaped curve.

Over the course of my initial listening, I noticed another endearing quality behind the A-T 5000s sense of balance. Within most of the midrange the 5000s sound quite vivid (even octave-to-octave balance without major dropouts). When you switch to other headphones (I used the Sennheiser HD800s and the AKG 702 for this part of the test), the other headphones may seem roughly balanced but it almost always sounds like something is missing in the midrange. In contrast, the 5000s sound more present in the upper mid-range and quite flat in the remainder of the mid-band. I commented on a similar quality in the AKG 702s, and I think the A-Ts take this a step further (and the A-Ts have arguably a more accurate balance bottom to top). This additional step may be a smidgeon too strong (elevated mid-range and upper mid-range energy -- at least with some amps) but it sounds relatively natural with the tracks I've played so far; I intend to address this question in further listening.

Comments

bherlihy -- Wed, 01/20/2010 - 15:15

Tom,
do the A-T's offer the option of balanced connects like the Sennheiser?

dl (not verified) -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:29

Why on earth would anyone need that?? They're transducers, they don't care which end is grounded, if either! Chop off the end and replace it with XLR's if you want, or make an adapter.

The main issue would be, are they compatible with 1 mW into 600 ohms. Some are, some aren't. If they were nominally 8 ohms you could have problems.

By "balance" I assume the reviewer meant tonal balance.

Tom Martin -- Wed, 01/20/2010 - 21:41

Well, to my understanding, if you mean the Sennheiser HD 800, Sennheiser does not offer a balanced connection. There are aftermarket products (I've used the Cardas) that provide a balanced configuration.

I am not aware of such an offering for the Audio Technicas, though I suppose in principle any headphone can be re-wired. The connectors on the A-Ts are not obviously easily removed (we don't make a habit of destroying review samples, so I'm reluctant to pull too hard).

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amarphael (not verified) -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:34

I'm totally awed by these headphones, To me they deleiever the most euphonic sound reproduction i've heared anywhere.
I must disagree on your description of thier tonal balnace however, to the point when i wonder if we're using the same headphone :) They're nowhere balanced top to bottom. The Sound character is very much on the cold and bright, Yet incredibly smoooth, They emphasize the upper mids and treble to make them extend the most i've heared (more than K701, D5000, Ultrasone Pro900, Beyer Dt880, Grado RS-1, All of which i've owned) and the bass is the tightest and most detailed i've heared but noticeably
lacking in body. My current rig is Stello 100 series with a sqeezebox3, And i've heared them with a Woo6 tube amp and a Meier Corda Opera SS amp- The result was much the same with all of them and always simply stunning!

Cheers.

ilah@quicknet.nl -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 11:22

As i own these headphones i must say that they sound very good and naturall. No aerth shaking bass and no shrill sounding trebles. Just as music is supposed to sound like,in my humble opinion. I do go to listen to live music in very good sounding concerthalls here in Holland. We have one of the best sounding concert halls here in Amsterdam. So that's my reference for good sound.
I bought them a month ago for $750 . I bought them after i heard the ATH-1000. And in a comparison with the Senheiser HD 800 on a yamamoto headphone amp at a friend, i liked the AT 1000 more then the Sen's. That;s the reason why i bought the AT 5000. And for the money it's a steal. You wont for example, find the Sen's for this price!! Or any other phones sounding like this for that matter.
With musical greetings.

dl (not verified) -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:33

With closed back designs tonal balance can be an ear-dependent thing, unfortunately.

Bones13 (not verified) -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 11:23

I balanced my W5000 (Moon Audio Black Dragon Wiring), and it totally fixed the low end thinnes that I felt they had. These are much more energized with a good balanced wiring and amplifier. Balancing these headphones requires expertise, as there are no "plugs" nor modular cords like the Senns have.

Overall though the HD800 is still more balanced, and easier to listen to.

Lasse (not verified) -- Thu, 01/21/2010 - 17:22

Distorted, maybe faulty then? Would it be even legal to sell HP's that distort at this price?

Tom Martin -- Sat, 01/23/2010 - 11:00

Just to clarify: on some tracks I hear what sounds like distortion. As I said, this could be the headphones revealing distortion in the recording or it could be the amp or headphones.

I would add that all audio equipment exhibits distortion. Transducers have particularly high levels of distortion. Almost everything we are describing in reviews that is a deviation from the absolute sound is a distortion somewhere in the system. While that may seem obvious when stated like that, I hope it helps clarify that of course products that distort are sold legally.

By using the term distortion here, I was referring to the sense of noticeable high frequency harmonic distortion (many distortions are enharmonic -- these are generally more noticeable, so much so that we don't often describe them using the word distortion, a term we reserve for low level, musically related distortion).

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Tom Martin -- Sat, 01/23/2010 - 10:52

Folks: thanks for the comments. In regard to frequency balance, it may help to read my blog on impedance issues:

http://www.avguide.com/blog/headphone-frequency-response-and-impedance-i...

I don't know that amplifier - headphone impedance interaction is responsible for some of the differences we're hearing, but it is worth considering. I just got the Grace m902 (low output impedance) so I'll be able to comment in a few days on how that impacts things.

It is also worth mentioning that my comparisons are based on direct A/B comparison with the headphones described, not from memory.

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Mr. FOH (not verified) -- Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:51

The local AT rep turned me on to these late last year & they have become the de-facto set of cans we use for critical tracking & monitoring. To me they have an almost neutral tonal balance that perfectly mimics our older Genelec S30C monitors throughout the entire range from around 250Hz up to well over 12KHz. In particular the vocal range does seem slightly forward in the sound field but it helps in revealing overly sibilant passages & allows us to compress or re-EQ when necessary. I've only used them to listen to "finished" (pre-recorded, 2 channel CD material) 2-3 times & found them to be very laid back in their overall presentation & definitely non-fatiguing.

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